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11-25-2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
What gets tiring is your victimization by one word out of hundreds
The definition of bigotry from the Oxford Dictionary is: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself
I certainly agree with Gerson that Gym Jordan continually exhibits the behavior of a bigot by the Oxford definition.
So Jim, take the ONE word out that triggers you and defend Gym Jordan from Gerson's statement.
“the Truly Trumpian Man – guided by xxxxxxx, seized by conspiracy theories, dismissive of facts and truth, indifferent to ethics, contemptuous of institutional norms and ruthlessly dedicated to the success of a demagogue.”
You can't because the pathos that drives you to support Floridaman and his toadies at any cost won't let you.
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"So Jim, take the ONE word out that triggers you and defend Gym Jordan from Gerson's statement.'
When that one word, is constantly used by your side to demonize everyone who disagrees with them. I just asked for evidence. I still don't see any, other than you said you agree with it. That's not evidence.
"Indifferent to ethics"? Jordan is amoral? Again, evidence, please. You seem to be under the impression that you stating a criticism, is evidence that it's valid criticism. It's not.
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11-25-2019, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"So Jim, take the ONE word out that triggers you and defend Gym Jordan from Gerson's statement.'
When that one word, is constantly used by your side to demonize everyone who disagrees with them. I just asked for evidence. I still don't see any, other than you said you agree with it. That's not evidence.
"Indifferent to ethics"? Jordan is amoral? Again, evidence, please. You seem to be under the impression that you stating a criticism, is evidence that it's valid criticism. It's not.
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Apparently you have no issue with Gym Jordan, if you can't see the issues with him, I won't be able to convince a bigot like you any differently.
That's the Oxford definition but if you choose to project other meanings onto it, feel free.
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11-25-2019, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Apparently you have no issue with Gym Jordan, if you can't see the issues with him, I won't be able to convince a bigot like you any differently.
That's the Oxford definition but if you choose to project other meanings onto it, feel free.
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My issue, is with those who toss around labels like "bigot", while offering exactly zero evidence. I asked you 4-5 times for evidence, any evidence, that Jordan is what you, or the author you quoted, say he is.'
Let's stick with the Oxford definition. What's the evidence that Jordan has any malice for everyone who disagrees with him? Because he was gruff with a couple of impeachment witnesses, makes him a bigot? Is that what you're suggesting?
You're having a tough week, Pete. Take some deep breaths.
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11-25-2019, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
My issue, is with those who toss around labels like "bigot", while offering exactly zero evidence. I asked you 4-5 times for evidence, any evidence, that Jordan is what you, or the author you quoted, say he is.'
Let's stick with the Oxford definition. What's the evidence that Jordan has any malice for everyone who disagrees with him? Because he was gruff with a couple of impeachment witnesses, makes him a bigot? Is that what you're suggesting?
You're having a tough week, Pete. Take some deep breaths.
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Class act in action
He gets far more leeway in Congress than he would in a court of law, though that doesn't matter since he never passed the bar.
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11-25-2019, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Class act in action
He gets far more leeway in Congress than he would in a court of law, though that doesn't matter since he never passed the bar.
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And I can post video of Schiff interrupting witnesses and fellow Congressmen. SO if interrupting people makes Jordan a bigot, what does interrupting people make Schiff...let me guess...a hero.
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11-25-2019, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
And I can post video of Schiff interrupting witnesses and fellow Congressmen. SO if interrupting people makes Jordan a bigot, what does interrupting people make Schiff...let me guess...a hero.
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What about Schiff, is it?
I would surmise that if Schiff was not in Congress, he could return to his career as a prosecuting attorney.
Jim Jordan???????
Lets see what they both did after graduating from law school
Schiff
After law school, Schiff served as a law clerk for Judge William Matthew Byrne Jr. of the United States District Court for the Central District of California. From 1987 to 1993, he was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Office of the United States Attorney for the Central District of California. While in this position, Schiff came to public attention when he prosecuted the case against Richard Miller, a former FBI agent who was convicted of spying for the Soviet Union.
Then he went into politics.
Jordan
Jordan was an assistant wrestling coach with Ohio State University's (OSU) wrestling program from 1987 to 1995. During his tenure as Assistant Coach, at least 53 members of the Wrestling Team were sexually abused by the team physician. Jordan has refused to cooperate with the investigations into sexual misconduct at OSU and has refused all requests to be interviewed.
Then he went into politics.
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11-25-2019, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
What about Schiff, is it?
I would surmise that if Schiff was not in Congress, he could return to his career as a prosecuting attorney.
Jim Jordan???????
Lets see what they both did after graduating from law school
Schiff
After law school, Schiff served as a law clerk for Judge William Matthew Byrne Jr. of the United States District Court for the Central District of California. From 1987 to 1993, he was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Office of the United States Attorney for the Central District of California. While in this position, Schiff came to public attention when he prosecuted the case against Richard Miller, a former FBI agent who was convicted of spying for the Soviet Union.
Then he went into politics.
Jordan
Jordan was an assistant wrestling coach with Ohio State University's (OSU) wrestling program from 1987 to 1995. During his tenure as Assistant Coach, at least 53 members of the Wrestling Team were sexually abused by the team physician. Jordan has refused to cooperate with the investigations into sexual misconduct at OSU and has refused all requests to be interviewed.
Then he went into politics.
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You said Jordan was a bigot because he interrupts people. I pointed out that Schiff is known to do that too, so I asked if that makes Schiff a bigot.
It wasn't about Schiff. It was about your absurd claim that those who interrupt people, are bigots. Even more absurd, you believe that only republicans who interrupt people are bigots.
The investigation done by the school found absolutely zero evidence that Jordan knew anything. If there is any evidence, I'll say he has absolutely no business serving in Congress. I won't say that, based solely on an accusation.
Schiff also had that moment that reeked on maturity and sanity, when he read a parody letter of the conversation between Trump and the president of Ukraine. That wasn't weird at all, nope.
Jordan has a bachelors in Economics, a Masters in education, and went to Law school. You left some of that stuff out. I'm sure it was an accidental omission, you weren't trying to paint him in a negative light on purpose.
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11-25-2019, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
And I can post video of Schiff interrupting witnesses and fellow Congressmen.
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He's the chair of the committee, it's his job to keep it running under the rules.
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11-25-2019, 02:10 PM
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He's the chair of the committee, it's his job to keep it running under the rules.
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Agreed. There are reasons why you can interrupt someone, and it doesn't mean one is a bigot.
I wasn't the one who claimed any connection between one's penchant for interrupting others, and bigotry.
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11-25-2019, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Apparently you have no issue with Gym Jordan, if you can't see the issues with him, I won't be able to convince a bigot like you any differently.
That's the Oxford definition but if you choose to project other meanings onto it, feel free.
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Last week on national TV, CNN "anchor" Don Lemon said that everyone who disagrees with him on Trump's behavior, is "mental". That's the word he used.
Would you say Don Lemon is a bigot?
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11-25-2019, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Last week on national TV, CNN "anchor" Don Lemon said that everyone who disagrees with him on Trump's behavior, is "mental". That's the word he used.
Would you say Don Lemon is a bigot?
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By definition, yes.
That might also mean, he is prejudiced.
In this case it might mean he exhibits some common sense, but your prejudice and bigotry won't let you see that.
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