Durham’s probe into Russian investigation now a criminal investigation

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

paul is on a roll....good grief...talk about struggling with reality

So you agree that it was sedition because that is so beyond the pale that I haven't seen anyone else stupe that low
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So you agree that it was sedition?
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I think, based on what I know about him, it was his goal to undermine this president in any possible way.... I believe he was part of a coordinated effort to undermine this president which has been ongoing since his election, you'd have to be incredibly blind not to see it.....so by definition and with the help of Schiff...yes...this is as poorly executed as the Kavanaugh hearings debacle and embarrassment and the democrats will again get bit in the butt

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

I think, based on what I know about him it was his goal to undermine this president in any possible way.... I believe he was part of a coordinated effort to undermine this president which has been ongoing since his election, you'd have to be incredibly blind not to see it.....so by definition and with the help of Schiff...yes...this is as poorly executed as the Kavanaugh hearings debacle and embarrassment and the democrats will again bet bit in the butt

so what do you know about him (both the WB and Vidman) that implies it was their goal to undermine the president? And what was the coordinated effort? Why does the transcript not accurately reflect what Trump said if the call was perfect. Why was the tape of the call moved to lessen the amount of people who can listen to it.?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

so what do you know about him (both the WB and Vidman) that implies it was their goal to undermine the president? And what was the coordinated effort? Why does the transcript not accurately reflect what Trump said if the call was perfect. Why was the tape of the call moved to lessen the amount of people who can listen to it.?
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you are having a tough day huh?...go trick or treating and get some free candy

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

you are having a tough day huh?...go trick or treating and get some free candy

It's a great question. You really don't know much about the whistle blower at all. The IG said he was credible. We've seen now about a dozen career and well respected members of the Govt validate not just the whistle blower but validate the bigger story of a shadow conspiracy involving multiple members of Trump's inner circle to shake down a foreign government to influence the 2020 election. Oh, and lie about all of it.

If this isn't impeachable nothing is, and the GOP is freaking out.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

It's a great question. You really don't know much about the whistle blower at all. The IG said he was credible. We've seen now about a dozen career and well respected members of the Govt validate not just the whistle blower but validate the bigger story of a shadow conspiracy involving multiple members of Trump's inner circle to shake down a foreign government to influence the 2020 election. Oh, and lie about all of it.

If this isn't impeachable nothing is, and the GOP is freaking out.

This is hilarious. I love that you’ve found your sense of humor
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[ReelinRod]

The timing of the Durham administrative investigation moving to a criminal one has been questioned given the progress of the impeachment proceedings.

I've been reading what I think is the reason . . .

A newer FISA court ruling has come out, just declassified on October 8th. It's not unlike the one I referenced earlier in the thread but this one examines even greater DOJ/FBI abuse of the NSA databases in a more recent time period -- after the election.

Hmmmmmm.

This ruling by the FISA court shows that officials within DOJ and FBI are/were on a continuum. The illicit McCabe, Comey, Priestap, Strzok, Page, Baker “small group” activity in 2016 I posted about earlier, didn’t stop after the election but rather continued and expanded with the Mueller / Weissmann investigation (tens of thousands more illegal, 4th Amendment violating searches).

There isn't much in the MSM about this (of course). The Wall Street Journal had an article, (paywall though), it is mirror published (free) on the Hill's website.

So my take is that Barr and Durham were already investigating the 2016 abuses and unmasking and White House PDB involvement but with the declassification and public release of this ruling, they wanted to get subpoenas issued for investigative documents and for many personnel associated with the Special Counsel / Mueller investigation.

Explains why the impeachment timetable got goosed. Things are going to get really nasty.

Link to the ruling below . . . NOTE this is on the DNI's website . . . proceed at your own risk -- hope you don't mind being on a list .

FISC’s October 2018 Opinion

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

This is hilarious. I love that you’ve found your sense of humor
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You've been hanging out next to SD too long and he is starting to turn your brain to mush.