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Old 10-13-2019, 11:31 AM   #1
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The Soviet-born Lev Parnas, who says (WP) he met Trump "several" times before the 2016 election and came to "admire" him, began working with the Trump Org around 1987—the year Trump first went to the Soviet Union in a trip reports say the KGB set up.
Lev Parnas was born in 1965/1966, and says he returned to the Soviet Union after selling Trump Organization condos while Fred Trump was running the Trump Organization. The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991; that places Parnas's work for the Trumps somewhere between 1987 and 1990.
So the KGB develops an interest in Trump right as a Soviet-born man who brags about his connections to "Russian money" begins working with the Trump Organization selling condos... despite no apparent interest in real estate? And Parnas meets Trump "several times" pre-election?
Man, can you imagine how crazy it'd be if Parnas had ties to organized crime? ... for instance, by being "financed" by Soviet-born Dmytro Firtash, who has conceded his entire business empire is based on largesse from Putin friend and international gangster Semion Mogilevich?
Has Trump been a Russian asset since 1987? No. Has he been someone Russian intelligence and organized crime—linked entities—have believed since 1987 they could work with profitably to advance both Trump's interests and their own? Yes. Has it happened? Via intermediaries, yes.
We already have Trump lying about how well he knows Parnas. We have Giuliani lying about Parnas. We have Parnas wrapped up in various ties with Manafort, Firtash, Sater, Fred Trump...we've seen this pattern before. Lies surrounding myriad contacts with Soviet-born persons.
Yes, there was a damning phone call with Zelensky that was the culmination of many months of work by Parnas and Giuliani. But Parnas has been part of this story for over three decades.
Robert Perreira may have thought Parnas was meeting Trump for the first time when Parnas was at an exclusive fundraiser for Trump weeks before the 2016 election. We now know that's not true—indeed, that it's not even *close* to true—though Perreira couldn't have known it then.
It has been established that Putin was paying Firtash insane amounts of funny money; we now know Firtash was spending some of his money bankrolling Parnas. It's pretty clear now that Parnas isn't who we thought he was—and his mission wasn't small-time commercial scams.
The final "deliverable" to be taken from Parnas's work with Trump and Trump's legal team was that Russia would be absolved of attacking America in 2016, Trump would be free to end all sanctions on Russia, and Russia would be primed to attack America again.
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:44 PM   #2
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this is great..

Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) revealed in a new interview that House Democrats have discussed jailing allies of the president who do not comply with congressional subpoenas, an escalation of the House's efforts to force White House compliance with an impeachment inquiry.

Tlaib told Deadline Detroit that such an action, known as inherent contempt, would be "uncharted territory" for Congress but added that "serious discussions" about taking the step have occurred within the Democratic caucus.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:02 PM   #3
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Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) revealed in a new interview that House Democrats have discussed jailing allies of the president who do not comply with congressional subpoenas, an escalation of the House's efforts to force White House compliance with an impeachment inquiry.

Tlaib told Deadline Detroit that such an action, known as inherent contempt, would be "uncharted territory" for Congress but added that "serious discussions" about taking the step have occurred within the Democratic caucus.
That is not uncharted territory. A Clinton era person was jailed for over a year for not cooperating in the whitewater investigation.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:09 PM   #4
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That is not uncharted territory. A Clinton era person was jailed for over a year for not cooperating in the whitewater investigation.
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she refused to answer questions for a grand jury so it's very different than refusing to testify for the democrat nuts in congress and their kangaroo sham court but you should be smart enough to know that
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:14 PM   #5
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she refused to answer questions for a grand jury so it's very different than refusing to testify for the democrat nuts in congress and their kangaroo sham court but you should be smart enough to know that
Boy you have the Trump narrative down pat, Congress has the right to call these witnesses in for testimony, if this is a nothing burger as you claim, why refuse to cooperate? Love the right scramble to reach agreement on the narrative, but Scott you clearly are waiting for the right talking points.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:38 PM   #6
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Boy you have the Trump narrative down pat, Congress has the right to call these witnesses in for testimony, if this is a nothing burger as you claim, why refuse to cooperate? Love the right scramble to reach agreement on the narrative, but Scott you clearly are waiting for the right talking points.
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yes...I knew the talking points to use before he even wrote that...I'm amazing

he was completely wrong with his lightning quick talking points but don't let that figure in to your reasoning

trump should make this as difficult as possible for the corrupt, deranged democrats....and it will be more fun that way too
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yes...I knew the talking points to use before he even wrote that...I'm amazing

he was completely wrong with his lightning quick talking points but don't let that figure in to your reasoning

trump should make this as difficult as possible for the corrupt, deranged democrats....and it will be more fun that way too
Do you think there are no corrupt deranged republicans ?
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