is it impeachable to ask ukraine to investigate political adversaries?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

You don't want to recognize the conundrum that "personal gain" is not avoidable when pursuing that which is good.

But you do seem to think that you can tell us the story before the rest of it is out.

If it was acceptable why would you go to unusual measures to hide it?

What else is hidden from the rest of the government to protect the would be King?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If it was acceptable why would you go to unusual measures to hide it?

In this unusual political environment of constant leaks and misrepresentations, it would be wise to protect personal conversations with foreign leaders. Why would foreign leaders want to have personal conversations with their counterparts if they could not be confidential?

What else is hidden from the rest of the government to protect the would be King?

Your constant name-calling and distortion (lying?) is but a small sample in the larger world of rabid opposition "journalism" and treacherous political opponents who choose to pursue destruction and power rather than cooperation in solving current problems.

And this hyper attempt to destroy Trump is not without a deeper reason than just mere politics.

There is a lot of "hiding" going on in order to deflect from who, and why, began the phony notion that Trump colluded with Russia. And expanding the cover-up by constantly turning up whatever phony little stone that Trump is supposedly guilty of in order to keep the deception going until the next election where he can be deposed, and the threat of exposing those who created collusion narratives can then still be hidden, perhaps forever.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Your constant name-calling and distortion (lying?) is but a small sample in the larger world of rabid opposition "journalism" and treacherous political opponents who choose to pursue destruction and power rather than cooperation in solving current problems.

Are you talking about this guy?

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Liddle’ Adam Schiff, Sleepy Creepy Joe, Crazy Bernie, Pocahantas, Alfred E. Neuman, Lying Ted, Little Rocket Man, Little Marco, Low Energy Jeb, Cryin’ Chuck and more.


And this hyper attempt to destroy Trump is not without a deeper reason than just mere politics.

You should worry more about Trump's consigliere Colludy and his shadow State Department than me, he's on a one man mission with lots of media coverage to take down Trump and his entire cabinet.

There is a lot of "hiding" going on in order to deflect from who, and why, began the phony notion that Trump colluded with Russia.

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6432520-The-NRA-Russia-How-a-Tax-Exempt-Organization

And expanding the cover-up by constantly turning up whatever phony little stone that Trump is supposedly guilty of in order to keep the deception going until the next election where he can be deposed, and the threat of exposing those who created collusion narratives can then still be hidden, perhaps forever.

Keep defending the Liar in Chief, he claims that we fund Ukraine and Europe does not? Just another in the long list of lies.

“The top donors for Ukraine in 2016-2017 are: European Institutions ($425.2 million), US ($204.4), Germany ($189.8), Japan ($180.8), Poland ($42.5), Sweden ($34.6), UK ($31.6) and Switzerland ($29.6).”

Remember the whistle-blower crisis is following the same track as the slow-roll on acknowledging Trump knew about the Stormy Daniels payments and reimbursed Cohen - first a denial, then an admission of part, then an admission of other parts while saying there was nothing wrong with it. Before you know it he will agree with you that it is SOP for politicians, if he hasn't already.

[Pete F.]

White House said today that lawyers directed moving documents to highly secure system.

Trump has a history of using his lawyers to commit crimes for him—on the incorrect presumption they can't testify against him. He did it again here: shaking down a foreign power using his lawyer as a criminal instrument.

This Ukraine incident, and it consists of more than just his phone call, would be described—were it anyone but this president—as a crime spree: extortion, bribery, witness tampering, conspiracy, illegal solicitation of foreign campaign donations, obstruction of justice, Logan Act crimes and more. It's a historic scandal.

But the part that's truly crazy, and I know astonishes criminal lawyers the nation over, is that all of the principals have either confessed to the crimes, confessed to intent to commit the crimes, or accused other people of the same conduct and called the conduct criminal.

If you think Clinton committed a crime by hiring a law firm that hired a nonpartisan research firm that hired an independent contractor to conduct routine opposition research, you also think presidents can't extort foreign leaders for personal gain. Not f*cking rocket science.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Keep defending the Liar in Chief, he claims that we fund Ukraine and Europe does not? Just another in the long list of lies.

I believe he said something to the effect that they don't do enough, not that they didn't do anything. Ukraine President agreed with him and said that the US helps more than other of his European neighbors.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I believe he said something to the effect that they don't do enough, not that they didn't do anything. Ukraine President agreed with him and said that the US helps more than other of his European neighbors.

You believe incorrectly

You don't disagree with the guy with the checkbook, if you have the Russians taking over your country.
Look at Zelensky's face when Trump says he should talk to Putin and arrange something.