How Fake News Is Used to Undermine Trump & Divide America

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

So, would you prefer to just keep letting them come into the country illegally? Or do you think it would be better to have a deterrent?
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Best deterrent would be if were they lived they could live.. but we f up central america in the 70 and 80s .. walls and moats were very effective way back then . And dont work much better now .. i just find it funny All you hear is wall wall .. no other options see day light
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Best deterrent would be if were they lived they could live.. but we f up central america in the 70 and 80s .. walls and moats were very effective way back then . And dont work much better now .. i just find it funny All you hear is wall wall .. no other options see day light
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show me the evidence that walls
don’t work? you shut your door at night? how come?

walls don’t work, give me an effing break.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

show me the evidence that walls
don’t work? you shut your door at night? how come?

walls don’t work, give me an effing break.
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how well are the ones all ready there working?? and you want billions more to spend on something that wont do what you say it will ...

you shut your door at night ... (omg the world has had doors for centuries.. didn't know they were to keep mexicans out?? ) what a simpleton view of the world I can see how Trump appeals to you and the base ...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

how well are the ones all ready there working?? and you want billions more to spend on something that wont do what you say it will ...

you shut your door at night ... (omg the world has had doors for centuries.. didn't know they were to keep mexicans out?? ) what a simpleton view of the world I can see how Trump appeals to you and the base ...

we shut our doors to keep people out who we didn’t invite. not just mexicans. and it works.

yes doors have been around for centuries. so have walls. because they work.

who says walls are all we need? your side, not my aide, wants to abandon ICE. think for a moment man.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

we shut our doors to keep people out who we didn’t invite. not just mexicans. and it works.

yes doors have been around for centuries. so have walls. because they work.

who says walls are all we need? your side, not my aide, wants to abandon ICE. think for a moment man.
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Well some of the other things resulted in torn apart families, imprisoned children, and AOC crying on a chain link fence.....sooooooo
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Well some of the other things resulted in torn apart families, imprisoned children, and AOC crying on a chain link fence.....sooooooo
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the cause of torn apart families, was adults who chose to take children with them on an illegal
journey. it’s also always worth noting that none of the snowflakes uttered a syllable
about separated families and caged children, when obama was doing it. selective outrage is fake outrage.

if we didn’t separate the kids, and threw everyone into one facility, and even one of those kids was hurt by an adult there, then the same people would be complaining that we threw the children to the wolves.

it’s very common for adults who are being processed through the criminal justice system, to temporarily lose custody of their children. happens all the time. it’s necessary.

and if i was born in mexico and couldn’t find work and couldn’t come here legally, i’d come here illegally if i had to. i absolutely get the motivation. but regardless of intentions, breaking the law has consequences, not all of them pleasant.

take every single penny we confiscate from mexican drug dealers and gangs, and use that money to improve those facilities. we have to detain these people
until their hearings, common sense and empirical data suggest that 90% of those released dont show up for their hearings, but they deserve compassion and
dignity.

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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

empirical data suggest that 90% of those released dont show up for their hearings, but they deserve compassion and
dignity.

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why do you post false hoods and right talking Points


Recent data shows that asylum seekers continue to appear for immigration court proceedings at high rates. In fiscal year 2018, Department of Justice (DOJ) figures show that 89 percent of all asylum applicants attended their final court hearing to receive a decision on their application. When families and unaccompanied children have access to legal representation, the rate of compliance with immigration court obligations is nearly 98 percent.


https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/res...court-hearings

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the cause of torn apart families, was adults who chose to take children with them on an illegal
journey. it’s also always worth noting that none of the snowflakes uttered a syllable
about separated families and caged children, when obama was doing it. selective outrage is fake outrage.

The Trump administration has chosen to prosecute immigrants under criminal statutes, rather than simply placing apprehended immigrants into civil immigration removal proceedings. Under the Immigration and Naturalization Act, people can be prosecuted in the criminal justice system for illegal entry, illegal re-entry, or assisting someone in illegal entry. However, past administrations have chosen to simply deport most offenders from the United States rather than use the resources of the criminal justice system to prosecute them. Criminal action had rarely been used in cases of families or parents and children coming across the border.
The use of criminal charges against parents caught crossing the border triggers a legal situation that necessitates separating children, while the use of civil immigration detention and removal does not require this to occur. When adults are detained and prosecuted in the criminal justice system for immigration offenses, their children cannot, by law, be housed with them in criminal jails, so the family unit is separated. The children are placed with the Department of Health and Human Services in shelters until they can be released to a family member, guardian, or foster family in the United States.

Previous administrations used family detention facilities, allowing the whole family to stay together while awaiting their deportation case in immigration court, or alternatives to detention, which required families to be tracked but released from custody to await their court date. Some children may have been separated from the adults they entered with, in cases where the family relationship could not be established, child trafficking was suspected, or there were not sufficient family detention facilities available. Both the Obama and Trump administrations have tried to establish more capacity to detain families and children, rather than releasing them until their hearing date. However, the zero-tolerance policy is the first time that a policy resulting in separation is being applied across the board.

if we didn’t separate the kids, and threw everyone into one facility, and even one of those kids was hurt by an adult there, then the same people would be complaining that we threw the children to the wolves.

it’s very common for adults who are being processed through the criminal justice system, to temporarily lose custody of their children. happens all the time. it’s necessary.

The Trump administration has chosen to prosecute immigrants under criminal statutes, rather than simply placing apprehended immigrants into civil immigration removal proceedings.

and if i was born in mexico and couldn’t find work and couldn’t come here legally, i’d come here illegally if i had to. i absolutely get the motivation. but regardless of intentions, breaking the law has consequences, not all of them pleasant.

take every single penny we confiscate from mexican drug dealers and gangs, and use that money to improve those facilities. we have to detain these people
until their hearings, common sense and empirical data suggest that 90% of those released dont show up for their hearings, but they deserve compassion and
dignity.

Most Released Families Attend Immigration Court Hearings
The latest case-by-case records from the Immigration Courts indicate that as of the end of May 2019 one or more removal hearings had already been held for nearly 47,000 newly arriving families seeking refuge in this country. Of these, almost six out of every seven families released from custody had shown up for their initial court hearing. Usually multiple hearings are required before a case is decided. For those who are represented, more than 99 percent had appeared at every hearing held. Thus, court records directly contradict the widely quoted claim that "90 Percent of Recent Asylum Seekers Skipped Their Hearings."

Under our current system, there is no legal requirement that immigrants actually receive notice, let alone timely notice, of their hearing. Given many problems in court records on attendance and in the system for notifying families of the place and time of their hearings, these appearance rates were remarkably high.

These and other findings discussed below are based upon an analysis of court records conducted by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) at Syracuse University. These court records, updated through May 2019, were obtained through a series of FOIA requests submitted by TRAC to the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR).

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Meanwhile the Criminal courts are bogged down prosecuting people accused of illegal immigration who previously would have been dealt with by civil proceedings and delaying prosecution and sentencing for rape and other dangerous criminal cases.

You are selectively outraged at immigrants by lies propagated by the Trump administration and state media.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the cause of torn apart families, was adults who chose to take children with them on an illegal
journey. it’s also always worth noting that none of the snowflakes uttered a syllable
about separated families and caged children, when obama was doing it. selective outrage is fake outrage.

if we didn’t separate the kids, and threw everyone into one facility, and even one of those kids was hurt by an adult there, then the same people would be complaining that we threw the children to the wolves.

it’s very common for adults who are being processed through the criminal justice system, to temporarily lose custody of their children. happens all the time. it’s necessary.

and if i was born in mexico and couldn’t find work and couldn’t come here legally, i’d come here illegally if i had to. i absolutely get the motivation. but regardless of intentions, breaking the law has consequences, not all of them pleasant.

take every single penny we confiscate from mexican drug dealers and gangs, and use that money to improve those facilities. we have to detain these people
until their hearings, common sense and empirical data suggest that 90% of those released dont show up for their hearings, but they deserve compassion and
dignity.

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I was being sarcastic
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

how well are the ones all ready there working?? and you want billions more to spend on something that wont do what you say it will ...

you shut your door at night ... (omg the world has had doors for centuries.. didn't know they were to keep mexicans out?? ) what a simpleton view of the world I can see how Trump appeals to you and the base ...

i’d wager the walls are working where they exist. i’ll wager most illegal immigration takes place where there are no walls.

P.S. a-der-der.
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[scottw]

"This (AP) story has been corrected to reflect that Alabama WAS included in charts mentioning wind speed probabilities from August 28 to August 31. The story previously said it was not."

AP Agency reverses course on Trump’s Alabama hurricane claim


The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration issued a statement that information provided by NOAA and the National Hurricane Center to the president had demonstrated that “tropical-storm-force winds from Hurricane Dorian could impact Alabama.” The advisories were dated from last Wednesday, Aug. 28, through Monday, the statement read.

Friday’s NOAA statement, points to graphics issued by the National Hurricane Center to support Trump’s claims. The maps show percentage possibility of tropical storm force winds in the United States. Parts of Alabama were covered, usually with 5% to 10% chances, between Aug. 27 and Sept. 3. Maps on Aug. 30 grew to cover far more of Alabama.

[Pete F.]

Not a single word in the NOAA statement backs up Trump’s claim on Sunday that Alabama “will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.”

Only a malignant narcissist would be unable to admit they too cannot predict the weather and be obsessed with it for close to a week, so far, keeping the story alive.

Yesterday the Stable Genius tweeted this, perhaps he was worried about the late night comics having to find new material.

The Fake News Media was fixated on the fact that I properly said, at the beginnings of Hurricane Dorian, that in addition to Florida & other states, Alabama may also be grazed or hit. They went Crazy, hoping against hope that I made a mistake (which I didn’t). Check out maps.....
....This nonsense has never happened to another President. Four days of corrupt reporting, still without an apology. But there are many things that the Fake News Media has not apologized to me for, like the Witch Hunt, or SpyGate! The LameStream Media and their Democrat.....
....partner should start playing it straight. It would be so much better for our Country!
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Not a single word in the NOAA statement backs up Trump’s claim on Sunday that Alabama “will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.”

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he's not a meteorologist and they get it wrong all the time...triggered snowflakes a need to settle down