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07-27-2019, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
I suppose looking at his record influences me to support him but you think the opposite is because you and I exist in a different universe of ideas, logic, truth, objectivity, and stuff like that.
And, I suppose, that is why you should give up banging your head against an impenetrable wall by trying to persuade Trumplicans to your point of view. The way you see things, in your alternate universe, to us, is just too damn stupid
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The Stable Genius Trump is now openly threatening to investigate Obama, probably because Hannity said something: "We want to find out what happened with the last Democrat president. Let's look into Obama the way they've looked at me ... they could look into the book deal that President Obama made. Let's subpoena all of his records."
That is something I’ll never get used to, nor accept as normal, a president openly threatening to use law enforcement powers for political retribution.
By themselves, threats like these should be impeachable offenses.
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07-27-2019, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
The Stable Genius Trump is now openly threatening to investigate Obama, probably because Hannity said something: "We want to find out what happened with the last Democrat president. Let's look into Obama the way they've looked at me ... they could look into the book deal that President Obama made. Let's subpoena all of his records."
That is something I’ll never get used to, nor accept as normal, a president openly threatening to use law enforcement powers for political retribution.
By themselves, threats like these should be impeachable offenses.
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More of your stupid stuff.
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07-27-2019, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
More of your stupid stuff.
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Make this into exoneration with your weasel words and lies.
Here’s what Mueller said:
➡️ Russia interfered in our election to help Trump.
➡️ Russians made numerous contacts with the campaign.
➡️ Campaign welcomed their help.
➡️ No one reported these contacts or interference to FBI.
➡️ They lied to cover it up.
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07-27-2019, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Make this into exoneration with your weasel words and lies.
Here’s what Mueller said:
➡️ Russia interfered in our election to help Trump.
➡️ Russians made numerous contacts with the campaign.
➡️ Campaign welcomed their help.
➡️ No one reported these contacts or interference to FBI.
➡️ They lied to cover it up.
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There was no exoneration. Despite all of your lists, the Mueller report did not find sufficient evidence that Trump conspired with Russia. And it made no criminal accusations that Trump obstructed justice, and made no recommendations one way or the other about it.
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07-27-2019, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
There was no exoneration. Despite all of your lists, the Mueller report did not find sufficient evidence that Trump conspired with Russia. And it made no criminal accusations that Trump obstructed justice, and made no recommendations one way or the other about it.
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Because they could not make a criminal accusation and left it for Congress to decide. The Impeachment clause that was in the prior act that enabled special prosecutors was not put into the special prosecutor regulations that were written when it expired.
“We, at the outset, determined that, when it came to the president’s culpability, we needed to go forward only after taking into account the OLC opinion that indicated that a sitting president cannot be indicted,”
“The conclusion that Congress may apply obstruction laws to the President’s corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law.”
Congressional action is the most direct means of addressing any potential criminal activity by President Donald Trump.
“Even if, to use Trump’s own example, he shot someone on Fifth Avenue, the only remedy would be for the president to be impeached by the House, convicted and removed from office by the Senate, and only then prosecuted in criminal court,” Georgetown University Law Professor Paul Butler has said. “If there is no impeachment, that’s a political crisis, not a constitutional one.”
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07-27-2019, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Because they could not make a criminal accusation
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Yes they could. They could have said that the evidence was sufficient to presume obstruction of justice.
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07-28-2019, 05:55 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Yes they could. They could have said that the evidence was sufficient to presume obstruction of justice.
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Not if the man running the investigation interpreted it differently. Sort of like Barr interpretation of the report, when since he came out to spin it to protect his boss, hundreds and hundreds of federal prosecutors have signed a letter stating anyone other than the sitting president would have been charged.
So if 1000 see it one way and 1 AG sees it another, sorry you can argue your case until your fingers bleed, guilty just not charged YET.
Looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, quacks like a duct, guess what.
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