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06-11-2019, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Hey, call Fox if you think they are reporting fake news, I already know they do. 
Actually, any search engine ‘bias’ is not down to conscious decisions by the search engine - it’s simply due to the way they all work.
They rank pages based on what real people find useful and what other, real websites link to. Their evil goal is to make money for their shareholders by showing the most useful results, thus increasing their market share and their ad revenues.
They use a math equation to rank the entire volume of content it has indexed, which is pretty much the entire world wide web. Math equations do not have political opinions.
There is no algorithm at Google or Bing that takes politics into account. If you see what you deem to be biased results, it is due to authoritative sites linking to websites which pushes them higher up search.
Authoritative websites are places like Universities (which tend to favour evidence-based research) and media organisations. Most of the rest of what puts a site at the top of a search engine is how users interact with it - do they find the result useful? This could show a bias because people have opinions - more people might click on one result that they agree with more than the other.
Autocomplete is not bias either. It is based on what people actually search - search engines do not just decide what goes in the autocomplete list arbitrarily.
So, in a sense search engines are unintentionally biased towards what the majority think, because this is what powers their results. There is no conspiracy, however 
Now, if you think there is a demand for right-biased search engines, support one like Searchconservative.com , they derate anything that might be liberal, it will give you the answers you want to hear. They have one add or they are owned by Judicial Watch. Better send them money. |
hannity reports all kinds of fake news. he’s an outlier. at cnn and msnbc, arent they all like
hannity?
again, you can’t disprove bias by pointing to one example of unbiased censorship. that’s not how logic works.
If you don’t think there’s liberal
bias anywhere, you are entitled to that opinion.
the op asked about google
and facebook. there’s clear evidence of bias, and god knows how many stories of employees admitting the bias.
as tdf said, the
media has been biased for years, they lost most of their credibility during the Bush and Obama
years. So it’s natural that digital
media would
be equally biased.
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06-11-2019, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
hannity reports all kinds of fake news. he’s an outlier. at cnn and msnbc, arent they all like
hannity? ALL, like Hannity?
again, you can’t disprove bias by pointing to one example of unbiased censorship. that’s not how logic works.
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First of all, the original poster asked specifically about FAANG, which is Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix and Google.
None of which are news reporting organizations that TDF brought into the thread.
Citing one source that is quite biased and that obviously has no idea how a search engine works or how SEO works is hardly unbiased.
https://www.polemicdigital.com/googl...gle-algorithm/
Barry Adams who wrote that is a Brit and doesn't have a horse in this race, though he might be among the 90% of Brits who don't like Trump. He does explain how bias does creep into search engines and there is nothing diabolical about it.
But keep believing Jim, the fake media is lying and all Trump says is true. Just ask him about the secret Mexican deal, it's so secret even the Mexicans don't know about it. |
Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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06-11-2019, 03:38 PM
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Pete...you remind me of Hannity  |
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06-11-2019, 07:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
First of all, the original poster asked specifically about FAANG, which is Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix and Google.
None of which are news reporting organizations that TDF brought into the thread.
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I included a couple of links in case you want to stay informed.
https://news.google.com/?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en
https://www.apple.com/apple-news/
I keep forgetting you don't watch TV
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06-11-2019, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
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What reporter works for them
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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06-12-2019, 05:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
What reporter works for them
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the business model is changing, try to keep up.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tflix-for-news
https://www.idownloadblog.com/2018/1...news-team-nyt/
I find it hard to believe Rachel Maddow/Tucker Carlson are pounding the streets for their next scoop too, all these "Journalists" you see on TV are just reporting their own little personal Op/Eds and calling them news. |
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06-12-2019, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
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And relying on the bitter partisans to feed them.
Remember it only matters that the other side's ox gets gored.
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06-12-2019, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
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Don't confuse journalists with people who play reporters on TV
From your links: "Apple News isn’t a firsthand source of news, so the Cupertino technology giant tasked Kern with building a curation team to fight against algorithms and fake news, vet content providers and cut down on clickbait." |
Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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06-12-2019, 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
Don't confuse journalists with people who play reporters on TV
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Funny, I google "MSNBC Journalists" and I get this returned at the top of the results.
Could that qualify as Google playing with its content by telling the masses that these people, are in fact, journalists. You know, not the people playing reporters on TV |
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