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05-06-2019, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
They clearly lay out that the material could be political in nature and intended to hurt Candidate #1's campaign. They're not going to name the Clinton campaign by name, it's not how the application process works.
This is after dozens of redacted pages that outline secret information to justify the warrant.
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Candidate #1 is Trump.
I thought about just letting you go on and on and let you spin why Candidate 1 was the victim....would have been interesting to say the least 
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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05-06-2019, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Candidate #1 is Trump.
I thought about just letting you go on and on and let you spin why Candidate 1 was the victim....would have been interesting to say the least 
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I didn’t say candidate #1 was clinton. Two separate statements.
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05-06-2019, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I didn’t say candidate #1 was clinton. Two separate statements.
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So you're saying that the material was intended to hurt Trump's campaign?
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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05-06-2019, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
So you're saying that the material was intended to hurt Trump's campaign?
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Opposition research usually is. What’s the problem?
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05-06-2019, 03:02 PM
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Opposition research usually is. What’s the problem?
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How about releasing Page's name to the media? Is that problematic, to tell the media that a US citizen is a Russian agent, when he still hasn't been charged with anything? What if that was done, specifically to hurt Trump or his campaign? Would that be a problem?
I agree, political opposition research isn't necessarily fabricated. But it should be taken with a grain of salt, not used to suspend the constitutional rights of a US citizen.
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05-06-2019, 03:36 PM
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05-06-2019, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
How about releasing Page's name to the media? Is that problematic, to tell the media that a US citizen is a Russian agent, when he still hasn't been charged with anything?
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I don't know if they ever determined how his name came out, but the initial media reports wasn't that he was a Russian agent but rather that he mad met with suspected Russian agents which I believe is true.
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05-06-2019, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I don't know if they ever determined how his name came out, but the initial media reports wasn't that he was a Russian agent but rather that he mad met with suspected Russian agents which I believe is true.
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On April 10, 2017, Strzok texted Page: "I had literally just gone to find this phone to tell you I want to talk to you about media leak strategy with DOJ before you go."
Just two days later, Strzok lauded Page's efforts and gave her a heads up that "two articles are coming out, one which is 'worse' than the other about Lisa's 'namesake,' " a reference to Carter Page.
Just one day after Strzok's text to Page, the Washington Post, on April 11, 2017, ran a piece titled "FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor former Trump advisor Carter Page."
weird...
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