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Old 04-12-2019, 08:21 AM   #1
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but there’s long precedent, of
not arresting people for publishing classified stuff stolen by others ( american papers published the classified, and stolen, Pentagon Papers in the early 1970s). he was a hero among american media until he hurt Hilary’s campaign. because if this, they hate him.

i don’t like the guy.
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TRUE but you can't have it both ways

He was the hero of the left who became the champion of the right, held up as both saviour and betrayer – often at the same time.

The Trump campaign and its supporters seized on the emails with gleeful abandon, dismissing suggestions of Russian involvement in the hacking, while wielding their contents as proof of a media collusion conspiracy.



again the pentagon papers and wikileaks are not the same


Ellsberg approached several members of Congress, none of whom took action.


the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that the government had failed to prove harm to national security, and that publication of the papers was justified under the First Amendment’s protection of freedom of the press.

he was charged but it was dismissed

he Nixon administration had Ellsberg and an alleged accomplice, Anthony Russo, indicted on criminal charges including conspiracy, espionage and stealing government property. The trial began in 1973, but ended in a dismissal of the charges after prosecutors discovered that a secret White House team (dubbed “the plumbers”) had burglarized Ellsberg’s psychiatrist’s office in September 1971 in order to find information that would discredit him.
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Old 04-12-2019, 08:42 AM   #2
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TRUE but you can't have it both ways

He was the hero of the left who became the champion of the right, held up as both saviour and betrayer – often at the same time.

The Trump campaign and its supporters seized on the emails with gleeful abandon, dismissing suggestions of Russian involvement in the hacking, while wielding their contents as proof of a media collusion conspiracy.



again the pentagon papers and wikileaks are not the same


Ellsberg approached several members of Congress, none of whom took action.


the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that the government had failed to prove harm to national security, and that publication of the papers was justified under the First Amendment’s protection of freedom of the press.

he was charged but it was dismissed

he Nixon administration had Ellsberg and an alleged accomplice, Anthony Russo, indicted on criminal charges including conspiracy, espionage and stealing government property. The trial began in 1973, but ended in a dismissal of the charges after prosecutors discovered that a secret White House team (dubbed “the plumbers”) had burglarized Ellsberg’s psychiatrist’s office in September 1971 in order to find information that would discredit him.
the pentagon paper case was a situation where journalists were free to publish classified info, criminally stolen by others. Is that not true?

i don’t want it both ways. but there’s a lot of hypocrisy with how he’s viewed, depending on who he is hurting at the moment.
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Old 04-12-2019, 09:08 AM   #3
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he was a hero among american media until he hurt Hilary’s campaign. because if this, they hate him.

i don’t like the guy.
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^^^ True. He was the Hero of the Press for his Bradley Manning leaks so much of the left and the press could bash Bush & the military and Gov. This was horrible risk to people serving.

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TRUE but you can't have it both ways



again the pentagon papers and wikileaks are not the same
True, we don't know if the WaPo was under the influence of Russia like Wikileaks was.

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