And what they did was treason."

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

That's true. But what you either are unaware of, or are pretending to be unaware of, is what happened with Carter Page, an American citizen on whom the FBI got a FISA warrant. The application for the warrant (you need probable cause) was the garbage Steele dossier.

So if the FBI had reasonable grounds to spy on Carter Page, and release his name so the networks could say he was a spy, I'm fine with that (though he hasn't been charged with anything). If the FBI made up the probable cause because they didn't want Trump to be President, that's something else.

It's important enough to investigate. I guess you disagree. We see texts from DOJ and FBI officials suggesting that they really, really didn't want Trump to win, and these people did not recuse themselves from the investigations. Of course that's not proof they did anything wrong. But it doesn't look good when the people investigating Trump and Hilary, are so openly hostile to Trump.

But in any event, not only did the Russia probe turn up no charges from the guy (Mueller) who everyone said would have the last word, it did trigger Barr to investigate those who shrieked about Russia collusion. Funny how that worked out, almost ironic in a way?

Noting sweeter, and I mean NOTHING, than watching someone get hoisted by their own petard.

And he was charged with nothing and you still have no issues with trump's people hanging out with Russians because the didn't get Trump... like I have said captain of the ship.

But bengiza was Hillary's fault??
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

But bengiza was Hillary's fault??
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while she was second state, every western nation, plus the red cross, pulled
out of benghazi because it was no longer safe. The americans were told to stay. in addition, we know that ambassador stevens
mad multiple requests for additional
security which were denied.

you deny she has some responsibility for those circumstances?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

while she was second state, every western nation, plus the red cross, pulled
out of benghazi because it was no longer safe. The americans were told to stay. in addition, we know that ambassador stevens
mad multiple requests for additional
security which were denied.

you deny she has some responsibility for those circumstances?
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none.. request are just that request it funny you see that as fault but dont see trump and his people in the same Light


the ambassador is the man in charge and felt he was safe hundreds of miles from the main embassy. his call

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

none.. request are just that request it funny you see that as fault but dont see trump and his people in the same Light


the ambassador is the man in charge and felt he was safe hundreds of miles from the main embassy. his call

wow. the ambassador made
multiple requests for extra security, so clearly he did NOT feel he was safe there.

You are a challenging person to debate with. You say it’s his fault for feeling safe, when we know for a fact he requested additional security.

can you please provide an example of me not holding trump and his people in the same light? or was that an unsubstantiated insult because you can’t reapond to what i’m saying?
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[DZ]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And he was charged with nothing and you still have no issues with trump's people hanging out with Russians because the didn't get Trump... like I have said captain of the ship.

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Do you have any idea how many politicians hang with Russian nationals? Just about everyone in Washington has a connection with a Russian. You make it sound unusual. It's well known that many Russian diplomats can also be intell gatherers - never the less diplomats serve a purpose in government and pols from both sides work with them on various issues.

Now if Barr decides to investigate if there was Dem collusion into falsely framing the Trump administration and the investigation proves they did - would you support indicting those involved? Simple answer will suffice - yes or no?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by DZ

Do you have any idea how many politicians hang with Russian nationals? Just about everyone in Washington has a connection with a Russian. You make it sound unusual. It's well known that many Russian diplomats can also be intell gatherers - never the less diplomats serve a purpose in government and pols from both sides work with them on various issues.

Now if Barr decides to investigate if there was Dem collusion into falsely framing the Trump administration and the investigation proves they did - would you support indicting those involved? Simple answer will suffice - yes or no?

it’s also normal for politicians of differing nations to establish contact with each other, there’s a million legitimate reasons to do that.
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[DZ]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

it’s also normal for politicians of differing nations to establish contact with each other, there’s a million legitimate reasons to do that.
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Absolutely!

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

it’s also normal for politicians of differing nations to establish contact with each other, there’s a million legitimate reasons to do that.
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How many legitimate reasons are there to lie about it?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

How many legitimate reasons are there to lie about it?

not many at all.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by DZ

Do you have any idea how many politicians hang with Russian nationals? Just about everyone in Washington has a connection with a Russian. You make it sound unusual. It's well known that many Russian diplomats can also be intell gatherers - never the less diplomats serve a purpose in government and pols from both sides work with them on various issues.

Now if Barr decides to investigate if there was Dem collusion into falsely framing the Trump administration and the investigation proves they did - would you support indicting those involved? Simple answer will suffice - yes or no?

We are talking and hanging with russian agents being watched by the FBI no avg russians and No I would not support the collusion ... simple answer Trump told Barr to investigate

AND he said Aye aye, sir.... and now it's acceptable to for the POTUS to tell the AG what and who he wants investigated

And the right has no issues with this..

How was Trump framed .