Cape cod canal C&R only question

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by PaulS

What % of the fisherman are commercial vs rec? W/o that stat, the chart is meaningless.

I don't think it is completely meaningless. From a population perspective, it is all about dead fish. Who should be able to kill them is a subjective discussion. Recs kill the vast majority of fish; an enormous # of fish. Until that is dealt with, it is gonna get worse and worse.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by zimmy

I don't think it is completely meaningless. From a population perspective, it is all about dead fish. Who should be able to kill them is a subjective discussion. Recs kill the vast majority of fish; an enormous # of fish. Until that is dealt with, it is gonna get worse and worse.

I understand that a dead fish is a dead fish but to use that chart without including the percentage of rec versus commercial fisherman to try to make a point needs some clarification.
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[piemma]

I think the total taken commercially in Mass was 800,000#. Hell the lunatics at the Canal would kill that in 2 weeks.

The answer is quite simple. Make the Striper a gamefish, impose a reasonable season, impose a slot and bingo, the stocks rebound and our kids and their kids have Stripers to catch.

Of course, pigs will fly before that happens. Too much money involved.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by piemma

I think the total taken commercially in Mass was 800,000#. Hell the lunatics at the Canal would kill that in 2 weeks.

The answer is quite simple. Make the Striper a gamefish, impose a reasonable season, impose a slot and bingo, the stocks rebound and our kids and their kids have Stripers to catch.

Of course, pigs will fly before that happens. Too much money involved.

Making stripers a game fish reduces the kill by 10% do you really think that would make a significant difference in the trajectory the SSB?

[piemma]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

Making stripers a game fish reduces the kill by 10% do you really think that would make a significant difference in the trajectory the SSB?

How do you come up with 10% Mike? If it's a game fish and there is a slot limit and a closed season for certain times of year then the total take is correspondingly reduced. Your logic is flawed because you assume I'm talking just about comms. The gamefish status would apply to everyone and the slot and closed season would also apply to everyone. It also would have a detrimental effect on the black market. No more striped bass on the menu in all the Asian restaurants.

Listen, Florida did it for Snook and Tarpon and it worked. I realize that those 2 species are indigenous to Florida and Stripers are much more widely distributed but if it were species wide then geographic borders would be meaningless.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by piemma

How do you come up with 10% Mike? If it's a game fish and there is a slot limit and a closed season for certain times of year then the total take is correspondingly reduced. Your logic is flawed because you assume I'm talking just about comms. The gamefish status would apply to everyone and the slot and closed season would also apply to everyone. It also would have a detrimental effect on the black market. No more striped bass on the menu in all the Asian restaurants.

Listen, Florida did it for Snook and Tarpon and it worked. I realize that those 2 species are indigenous to Florida and Stripers are much more widely distributed but if it were species wide then geographic borders would be meaningless.

Big difference between stripers and snook and tarpon. Snook and tarpon are not desirable food fish, so there wasn't any significant commercial fishery for the to start with. so called "gamefish" status only affect commercial fishermen, and we already have that status along most of the coast. NJ, CT, NH & ME do not allow the sale of striped bass. With the amount of fish already being released a slot limit isn't going to have much of an affect and 9% of the additional fish released will die anyway.