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03-27-2019, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Benghazi was investigated by a Republican Congress for a cost of 7 million and yielded a bunch of footstomping,
Like I said, congressional investigations are politically driven. You wanted to know what the difference was in the investigations. You are demonstrating that. And, since you bring it up, what was yielded was that HRC egregiously mishandled (some would say was grossly negligent [sound familiar] in) the security of the Benghazi post.
it did later downstream result in Comey's announcement during the campaign of continuing investigation into her emails. Some here would claim this was an FBI plot to somehow aid her campaign.
Perhaps you feel that the rule of law only applies in some cases and white lies don't count, since they didn't hurt anyone. Flynn and Papadopulos both plead guilty, didn't they?
The rule of law applied in the Flynn and Papadopoulos cases. Perhaps more harshly than necessary. Those FBI who interviewed Flynn did not think he was lying nor that inaccuracies in his answers were intentional. But, that apparently did not matter. His unintentional or inaccurate statements were used as "lies" in order to coerce him into cooperation. He has yet to be sentenced. But he pretty much was bankrupted (another tactic that the FBI uses to squeeze confessions and cooperation) by legal fees. And no conspiracy, in the end, was found. Great job FBI!
Papadopoulos did intentionally tell a little stinker intending, in his mind, to protect the President. But it was basically not about much, and some believe he was set up. But the FBI must not have thought that his lie was really important. He only got 14 days. Which is probably 14 days more than he deserved for something that was inconsequential.
And neither Flynn's nor Papadopoulos's "crimes" occurred before the investigation, but were a result of FBI tactics during it. What is called a process crime, not a crime that is germane to the reason for the investigation.
On the other hand, Hillary's more dangerous handling of emails was not as harshly and strictly (or not at all) subject to the rule of law.
Perhaps the danger of leaking emails pales in comparison to Russian interference in our elections and therefor needed a different level of investigation in comparison to Benghazi.
Mueller is likely the most qualified and competent investigator in this country.
I want to see his report, not the parsed comments of a political appointee.
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"Perhaps" and "likely" you, in your brilliant and authoritative dissection, will find fault with his report. I am sure that you will see exactly what you want to see. So far, Mueller hasn't disputed what Barr has said.
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03-27-2019, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
"Perhaps" and "likely" you, in your brilliant and authoritative dissection, will find fault with his report. I am sure that you will see exactly what you want to see. So far, Mueller hasn't disputed what Barr has said.
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Flynn lied to them and the agents asked him if he was sure of his statement.
They gave him the opportunity to correct it. Why he lied is a open question.
Just what have you heard Mueller say, about anything?
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03-27-2019, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Flynn lied to them and the agents asked him if he was sure of his statement.
Being sure of his statement does not mean he is intentionally lying. You do know the difference between lying and being wrong?
They gave him the opportunity to correct it. Why he lied is a open question.
The FBI investigators didn't think he was lying.
Just what have you heard Mueller say, about anything?
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Nothing. That's my point. Mueller jumped in a little while ago to correct what was being said about the investigation. So he has demonstrated that he will correct false impressions or statements about his investigation. So far, no correction or amendment has been made to Barr's synopsis.
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03-27-2019, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So far, Mueller hasn't disputed what Barr has said.
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I think Mueller is prohibited from saying anything about his report unless he's called by Congress.
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03-27-2019, 04:34 PM
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I think Mueller is prohibited from saying anything about his report unless he's called by Congress.
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Good point. Albeit a minor one in terms of the discussion twixt Pete and Me.
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03-27-2019, 04:42 PM
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Good point. Albeit a minor one in terms of the discussion twixt Pete and Me.
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Well, it did dismiss your entire post.
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03-27-2019, 04:50 PM
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Well, it did dismiss your entire post.
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Either you didn't read my entire post, or you're out of your mind.
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