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03-01-2019, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
So now not only are they Socialists but they are also Communists.
Which "they" are you referring to? There are openly avowed Socialists in the Democrat Party holding public office. There is a verified infiltration of the CPUSA in the Democrat Party. And there are the millions of Democrat voters who don't know about the latter and are partially favorable to the former.
I believe that Republicans are effectively bringing us down the road to Communism and a totalitarian state, where the means of production and politics are controlled by the oligarchy.
I don't know if you watched the video. It's only about 11 minutes and packed with documented Communist infiltrators working in the Democrat Party. Yet you do not acknowledge that. You do not discuss that. You deflect to another subject. You claim that Republicans are bringing us to Communism, and totally ignore that the Communists are supporting and working in the Democrat Party. This is a very strange and unconvincing line of reasoning. Actually, it's illogical.
Wealth and political power have been concentrated over the past 50 years in fewer people, who reduce the ability of the lower classes to organize and increase the power of corporations to the point where some are close to being monopolies.
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When you frame your argument within a class structure you are in the realm of Marxist Speak. A free market basically has no well defined classes. It has flexibility and fluidity of movement within the economic hierarchy. A Marxist system has a well defined class structure in which there is no flexibility or movement--only entrenchment or extinction.
The only true and permanent monopoly is state monopoly. In free and open markets, monopolies don't actually exist. And the capture of market share by one entity in free markets is usually good for the consumer because it is made possible by competitive pricing and more efficient production. Market power in a free market is the result of competition, and can (and will) be toppled by competition and innovation. True progress, in markets and governance, is only achieved through freedom.
If you can document how Republicans more than Democrats are leading us to state control of our lives that would be enlightening. In the meantime, the most ruthless statist form of politics and government in the modern world has infiltrated the Democrat party, not the Republican party.
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03-01-2019, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
When you frame your argument within a class structure you are in the realm of Marxist Speak. A free market basically has no well defined classes. It has flexibility and fluidity of movement within the economic hierarchy. A Marxist system has a well defined class structure in which there is no flexibility or movement--only entrenchment or extinction.
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When people talk about how totalitarian we are, I always go back to the stereotypical Asian immigrant family who comes here with nothing, and in one generation, their kids are doctors. That happens all the time, when you are dealing with people who will never stop working for what they want.
A society that allows that kind of upward economic mobility, is free. It cannot be called otherwise. But it would be better not to have powerful people making decisions in their own best interests, rather than the collective best interest.
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03-01-2019, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
When people talk about how totalitarian we are, I always go back to the stereotypical Asian immigrant family who comes here with nothing, and in one generation, their kids are doctors. That happens all the time, when you are dealing with people who will never stop working for what they want.
A society that allows that kind of upward economic mobility, is free. It cannot be called otherwise. But it would be better not to have powerful people making decisions in their own best interests, rather than the collective best interest.
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Those Good Asians, statistically all second generation immigrants do better than native born, not just Asians.
The powerful people currently own the corporations and control the Congress and our government. All you had to do to see that is watch the Senate hearings with Big Pharma.
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03-01-2019, 03:59 PM
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When murdering and raping immigrants fail to motivate the base... they move to crying about abortions and baby killing!! when that fails they jump to Socialists and Communists fear ... and when that doesn't work the media is the enemy when that gets old they start all over again
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03-01-2019, 05:47 PM
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When murdering and raping immigrants fail to motivate the base... they move to crying about abortions and baby killing!! when that fails they jump to Socialists and Communists fear ... and when that doesn't work the media is the enemy when that gets old they start all over again
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 That's what used to be called "camp" or "campy." It's so ridiculous that it's actually funny.
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03-01-2019, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
 That's what used to be called "camp" or "campy." It's so ridiculous that it's actually funny.
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It’s like “Plan Nine from Outer Space”
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03-02-2019, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
When murdering and raping immigrants fail to motivate the base... they move to crying about abortions and baby killing!! when that fails they jump to Socialists and Communists fear ... and when that doesn't work the media is the enemy when that gets old they start all over again
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Or fear of Muslims ... real funny isn't it... put up by west Va republicans in their State house
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03-02-2019, 08:56 AM
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Or fear of Muslims ... real funny isn't it... put up by west Va republicans in their State house
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Are you responding to another thread? Try to respond to the video I posted.
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03-02-2019, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Are you responding to another thread? Try to respond to the video I posted.
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He is convincing himself that he is posting on the right thread.🤡
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03-02-2019, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Are you responding to another thread? Try to respond to the video I posted.
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Nope right thread Just examples of how Republicans use Fear 
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03-01-2019, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Those Good Asians, statistically all second generation immigrants do better than native born, not just Asians.
The powerful people currently own the corporations and control the Congress and our government. All you had to do to see that is watch the Senate hearings with Big Pharma.
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why do second generation immigrants do better than native born?
culture.
they don’t feel entitled to anything, they are happpy to work for it. it’s nothing that only immigrants can do. anyone can copy that approach.
and who ever said capitalism was perfect? again responding to something that has never been said, ever.
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