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Old 02-13-2019, 09:44 PM   #1
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Neither of them hate Jews, you as usual are misinformed by right wing media attempting to portray them as evil.

They have concerns about the actions of Israel oppressing the Palestinians.

Read the tweet you cite "evil doings" does not mean Israel is inherently evil, unless you are bonkers.



I assume you know very little about Palestine and Israel other than the rhetoric of the US political machine.
Here is a site that is concerned about the Palestinians, as is much of the world outside the US.
https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/isra...-conflict-101/
PeteF.,surely you are aware that her coworkers have openly expressed their displeasure with her ANTI-JEWISH rhetoric. Their words,not mine.
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:52 PM   #2
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PeteF.,surely you are aware that her coworkers have openly expressed their displeasure with her ANTI-JEWISH rhetoric. Their words,not mine.
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Other politicians?
She apologized for her use of the trope, more than others have done.
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Old 02-14-2019, 06:58 AM   #3
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Other politicians?
She apologized for her use of the trope, more than others have done.
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so if trump apologized for his
moral lapses, you’d support him?

she is deranged.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:35 AM   #4
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so if trump apologized for his
moral lapses, you’d support him?

she is deranged.
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Trump won’t change

From Forbes

The Intrusion Of Reality

There’s a catch with the use of fictions in politics. “The chief disability of propaganda,” wrote Hannah Arendt in her classic book, The Origins of Totalitarianism, “is that it cannot fulfill the longing of the masses for a completely consistent, comprehensible, and predictable world without seriously conflicting with common sense.”
For a time, common sense can be held at bay and prevented from intruding into the cocoon of reassuring fiction. Yet the deliberate distortion of reality is also the cause of propaganda’s inevitable downfall. It is the inexorable collision with reality that eventually ruins the cocoon. It’s not a matter of whether. It’s only a question of when.
For a time, common sense can be held at bay and prevented from intruding into the cocoon of reassuring fiction. Yet the deliberate distortion of reality is also the cause of propaganda’s inevitable downfall. It is the inexorable collision with reality that eventually ruins the cocoon. It’s not a matter of whether. It’s only a question of when.
The trifecta of disappearing tax refunds, falling farm incomes, and an extended government shutdown, along with the failure to secure funding for the wall are the most powerful shocks to the cocoon so far. The shutdown alone made significant inroads into Trump’s support. As of today (Wednesday), only two days before the Friday deadline, Trump hasn’t ruled out the possibility of yet another shutdown, although most see that as “a sequel no one needs.” But who knows? As Bret Stephens points out in the New York Times, Trump is perfectly capable of “committing suicide twice.”
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There’s a catch with the use of fictions in politics. “The chief disability of propaganda,” wrote Hannah Arendt in her classic book, The Origins of Totalitarianism, “is that it cannot fulfill the longing of the masses for a completely consistent, comprehensible, and predictable world without seriously conflicting with common sense.”
For a time, common sense can be held at bay and prevented from intruding into the cocoon of reassuring fiction. Yet the deliberate distortion of reality is also the cause of propaganda’s inevitable downfall. It is the inexorable collision with reality that eventually ruins the cocoon. It’s not a matter of whether. It’s only a question of when.
For a time, common sense can be held at bay and prevented from intruding into the cocoon of reassuring fiction. Yet the deliberate distortion of reality is also the cause of propaganda’s inevitable downfall. It is the inexorable collision with reality that eventually ruins the cocoon. It’s not a matter of whether. It’s only a question of when.
The trifecta of disappearing tax refunds, falling farm incomes, and an extended government shutdown, along with the failure to secure funding for the wall are the most powerful shocks to the cocoon so far. The shutdown alone made significant inroads into Trump’s support. As of today (Wednesday), only two days before the Friday deadline, Trump hasn’t ruled out the possibility of yet another shutdown, although most see that as “a sequel no one needs.” But who knows? As Bret Stephens points out in the New York Times, Trump is perfectly capable of “committing suicide twice.”
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I see! So Trump is defined by his actions (which is totally fair), but Omar is not, as long as she apologizes. So she can keep bashing Jews for being evil and only caring about money, but as long as she apologizes each time, she's not a bigot.

That makes ALL KINDS of sense.
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but Omar is not

That makes ALL KINDS of sense.
I encourage her to speak freely and often ....another gift for 2020
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I encourage her to speak freely and often ....another gift for 2020
I know what you mean, and that's exactly how I feel about Cortez, who I feel is amusing, completely harmless, and a benefit to the Republicans. Omar, I feel, is way more dangerous, a near-radical Muslim in Congress. When someone like her says she doesn't want to fund ICE or even Homeland Security, the hair on the back of your neck goes up a little bit. Not too fond of the Jews either, apparently she feels they are a bit much.
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I see! So Trump is defined by his actions (which is totally fair), but Omar is not, as long as she apologizes. So she can keep bashing Jews for being evil and only caring about money, but as long as she apologizes each time, she's not a bigot.

That makes ALL KINDS of sense.
Perhaps you think she is the only person who ever said anything that could be construed as anti-Semetic, and you gladly accept it without outcry when McCarthy accuses Jews of trying to buy the midterms.

From Haaretz
At the start of the week, Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar from Minnesota was back in hot water over tweets on Israeli influence in American politics. This time, according to Omar, “It’s all about the Benjamins,” the cash keeping U.S. civil servants towing the Zionist line.

It’s telling that Ilhan Omar fell so quickly back into an anti-Semitic trope after a protracted public controversy over earlier tweets on Israel hypnotizing the world. It is also grating to see Republicans like House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who once suggested wealthy Jews were trying to “buy” the midterm elections, pounce at the opportunity to score partisan points. Congresswoman Omar did ultimately apologize, albeit only after censure by the House Democratic leadership.

The pretext for Congresswoman Omar’s latest contentious tweet was Kevin McCarthy’s threat of punitive action against her and Rashida Tlaib over their Israel criticism. McCarthy admonished the two Democratic representatives in a public way because it mobilizes the Republican base and inflames a wedge issue among Democrats. Contra Omar, no “Benjamins” were required to make such a move politically expedient for the GOP, even as it helps turns Israel into a partisan football.

Of course you could read the whole article, it's far more interesting than just those bits.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...442D2C02838EAF

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