Sincere ? on walls

[Sea Dangles]

He said it last night,if you were paying attention PeteF. His plan,as noted,DOES include a wall. You seem to interpret this as meaning exclusively; a wall. Listen to ALL the words PeteF. and become enlightened. It shouldn’t be too hard to digest this information and come to a reasonable conclusion.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

He said it last night,if you were paying attention PeteF. His plan,as noted,DOES include a wall. You seem to interpret this as meaning exclusively; a wall. Listen to ALL the words PeteF. and become enlightened. It shouldn’t be too hard to digest this information and come to a reasonable conclusion.
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Having a plan is one step in our governmental process.
The president proposes a budget, Trumps last one included 1.6 billion for barriers.
Congress is not just a rubber stamp, so Step 2 is getting the legislative bodies to agree to something that accomplishes your goal. This typically requires negotiation and rarely is just based on a demand.
He may have done step one but now he needs to learn how to do step 2.
It's doubtful that he will negotiate, so far all he has done is offer retreads of previously rejected items as attempts at negotiation.
Now if the far sides of the political spectrum had less influence, including several fools in the WH, the members of Congress could come up with bipartisan solutions and something could happen but both sides seem to be stuck and Trump is not helping by going WALL.
It's not about what is needed for the country to him, he just needs to win period and that very likely will not work.
Pelosi and Coulter have him by the cojones and he has no clue how to get out of their grip, or deal with Congress.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Pelosi and Coulter have him by the cojones and he has no clue how to get out of their grip, or deal with Congress.

Which explains why he never wins or gets anything done.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Which explains why he never wins or gets anything done.

And it will get worse unless he learns to negotiate.

His party controlled both houses for the first two years of his term and
according to GovTrack, Trump has signed 176 bills since his inauguration. That’s about on par with Barack Obama at this point in his presidency (174), and slightly behind George W. Bush (187). But both Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush far surpassed those numbers in the pieces of legislation signed in their first 100 days, 262 and 309 bills, respectively.

But what about those post office namings and “National Country Music Day” designations? NBC News counted each piece of legislation passed under Trump and the previous four presidents and removed those that simply named, commemorated, awarded or appointed an individual, group or cause.

Under that count, Trump is also about on par with his previous two successors. Of the 176 bills he has signed into law, 132 are classified as substantive, compared to 118 for Obama and 133 for George W. Bush. But George H.W. Bush and Clinton are far ahead of all three, clocking in at 170 and 177.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

And it will get worse unless he learns to negotiate.

His party controlled both houses for the first two years of his term and
according to GovTrack, Trump has signed 176 bills since his inauguration. That’s about on par with Barack Obama at this point in his presidency (174), and slightly behind George W. Bush (187). But both Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush far surpassed those numbers in the pieces of legislation signed in their first 100 days, 262 and 309 bills, respectively.

But what about those post office namings and “National Country Music Day” designations? NBC News counted each piece of legislation passed under Trump and the previous four presidents and removed those that simply named, commemorated, awarded or appointed an individual, group or cause.

Under that count, Trump is also about on par with his previous two successors. Of the 176 bills he has signed into law, 132 are classified as substantive, compared to 118 for Obama and 133 for George W. Bush. But George H.W. Bush and Clinton are far ahead of all three, clocking in at 170 and 177.

Oh, so what matters is how many bills there are, not what those bills actually do.

Low unemployment, high GDP, high stock market, ISIS on the run, more women working, more blacks working, crime reform bill.

But let's ignore all that, because they don't send the message you want to send.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Having a plan is one step in our governmental process.
The president proposes a budget, Trumps last one included 1.6 billion for barriers.
Congress is not just a rubber stamp, so Step 2 is getting the legislative bodies to agree to something that accomplishes your goal. This typically requires negotiation and rarely is just based on a demand.
He may have done step one but now he needs to learn how to do step 2.
It's doubtful that he will negotiate, so far all he has done is offer retreads of previously rejected items as attempts at negotiation.
Now if the far sides of the political spectrum had less influence, including several fools in the WH, the members of Congress could come up with bipartisan solutions and something could happen but both sides seem to be stuck and Trump is not helping by going WALL.
It's not about what is needed for the country to him, he just needs to win period and that very likely will not work.
Pelosi and Coulter have him by the cojones and he has no clue how to get out of their grip, or deal with Congress.

PeteF. ,this is a clever response to nothing I said. Well played.
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