No Collusion but

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

He's technically right but that's just legal wonk. The DOJ could still bring additional indictments to Stone, or they might think the charges against Stone for conspiracy may not be strong enough for a grand jury but the obstruction and false statements are. Regardless it doesn't seem like he has a lot of lying to be accountable for.


You're comparing apples and tractor tires. Regardless the FISA warrant for Page was based on a lot of intel that had nothing to do with the Dossier. Even with that, there are no rules that state info like the Dossier can't be used for the warrant, it's up for the judge to decide, and 4 republican appointed federal judges agreed with the surveillance.

so what is in the stone indictments, which connects team
trump directly to wikileaks and the russians?

agreed on the steele dossier, no rules against it. but when it’s paid for by an opposition political campaign, and used to spy on a citizen ( didnhebget accused or indicted or
convicted of
anything, by the way?), smells like
the opposite of democracy.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so what is in the stone indictments, which connects team
trump directly to wikileaks and the russians?

Well, Stone is Trump's longest political confidant and was on the campaign team for a period and I believe remained on as an adviser. I also believe the indictment contains evidence of communication between Guccifer 2.0 (i.e Russia) Stone, Assange and unnamed Trump campaign officials. I'm sure we'll learn more about this.

agreed on the steele dossier, no rules against it. but when it’s paid for by an opposition political campaign, and used to spy on a citizen ( didnhebget accused or indicted or
convicted of
anything, by the way?), smells like
the opposite of democracy.
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As we said before, Cater Page was on the FBI's radar for his Russian connections before the Dossier.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Well, Stone is Trump's longest political confidant and was on the campaign team for a period and I believe remained on as an adviser. I also believe the indictment contains evidence of communication between Guccifer 2.0 (i.e Russia) Stone, Assange and unnamed Trump campaign officials. I'm sure we'll learn more about this.


As we said before, Cater Page was on the FBI's radar for his Russian connections before the Dossier.

did page ever get indicted for anything? the fbi, at least some within the DOJ, seemed to have an anti trump agenda, we all saw the Strzok texts.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

did page ever get indicted for anything? the fbi, at least some within the DOJ, seemed to have an anti trump agenda, we all saw the Strzok texts.
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Not every investigation leads to an indictment. It’s possible it provided info on others that were. As for Strzok I believe the IG said it didn’t influence his professional work. The media report was on a handful of texts out of many thousands even.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Not every investigation leads to an indictment. It’s possible it provided info on others that were. As for Strzok I believe the IG said it didn’t influence his professional work. The media report was on a handful of texts out of many thousands even.
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so that’s a
no, page was never charged with anything? jeez, all you had to say was no. and steroids was demoted, and fired, right?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so that’s a
no, page was never charged with anything? jeez, all you had to say was no. and steroids was demoted, and fired, right?
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The investigation wasn’t started because of Carter Page there Jim.
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