How long will Trump keep government shutdown

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

If you don’t think Trump is highly guilty of obstruction of justice you’re not paying attention.
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maybe i’m not. i have no problem
impeaching him if he committed an impeachable offense. i would
just hope that determination isn’t made by people who are foaming at the mouth with hatred of him.

trump is a unique character in this role, and not in a a good way. the democrats could resist, and do so with dignity. they are not. they are humiliating themselves.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

maybe i’m not. i have no problem
impeaching him if he committed an impeachable offense. i would
just hope that determination isn’t made by people who are foaming at the mouth with hatred of him.

trump is a unique character in this role, and not in a a good way. the democrats could resist, and do so with dignity. they are not. they are humiliating themselves.
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If he directed Cohen to lie to Congress and there is proof (beyond Cohen's statement). It is game over. Forget any of the other potential collusion, inauguration or host of other potential funny business. Both sides should see that.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

If he directed Cohen to lie to Congress and there is proof (beyond Cohen's statement). It is game over. Forget any of the other potential collusion, inauguration or host of other potential funny business. Both sides should see that.

if he directed cohen to lie, i agree that’s proof. but that came out yesterday, and people have been screaming for impeachment for two years. he beat them, and he made them look unbelievably stupid along the way, so they hate him. they hated w bush for the same reason, and he was a good guy.

part of me hopes he gets impeached, i like pence.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if he directed cohen to lie, i agree that’s proof. but that came out yesterday, and people have been screaming forminorachment for two years. he beat them, and he made them look unbelievably stupid along the way, so they hate him. they hated w bush for the same reason, and he was a good guy.
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One (hating him) does not preclude the need to act if he broke the law. Nor should it stop someone who doesn't hate him from acting.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

One (hating him) does not preclude the need to act if he broke the law. Nor should it stop someone who doesn't hate him from acting.

i agree. i’m talking about the comparisons to hitler, the freaking out that he’s attacking our liberties, he’s a dictator, blah blah blah.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

If he directed Cohen to lie to Congress and there is proof (beyond Cohen's statement). It is game over. Forget any of the other potential collusion, inauguration or host of other potential funny business. Both sides should see that.

Here’s the rub, the reporting wasn’t really about Cohen’s statement. The big deal is Mueller appearently has internal Trump Org emails and texts that are the source of the story. Cohen’s confirmation is just more on the pile.

If the story is true Trump is done. Getting 20 republican senators to cross the aisle won’t be a problem.
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by spence

Here’s the rub, the reporting wasn’t really about Cohen’s statement. The big deal is Mueller appearently has internal Trump Org emails and texts that are the source of the story. Cohen’s confirmation is just more on the pile.

If the story is true Trump is done. Getting 20 republican senators to cross the aisle won’t be a problem.
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But her emails!!!!!!
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

But her emails!!!!!!
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here’s the thing. i have said he deserves to be held accountable for his actions. who are the liberals here, who said the same about hilary? none.
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

here’s the thing. i have said he deserves to be held accountable for his actions. who are the liberals here, who said the same about hilary? none.
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That’s because we knew it was a joke.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

That’s because we knew it was a joke.
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so when comey said she acted very irresponsibly, and when people here said how serious it was ( and. it right wing nuts but neutral people
like john and tdf), and the demonstrable
lies she told ( never anything classified), that was all “a joke”. gotcha!

how about when she said she came under sniper fire, when video showed it was a peaceful ceremony? how would you describe that?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

here’s the thing. i have said he deserves to be held accountable for his actions. who are the liberals here, who said the same about hilary? none.
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Hillary’s actions are in no way equal to Trump’s. Not to mention her record of public service versus his self service.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Hillary’s actions are in no way equal to Trump’s. Not to mention her record of public service versus his self service.
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didn’t say they were equal. but they weren’t something to ignore and defend, yet that’s precisely what you did, because you like her.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by spence

Here’s the rub, the reporting wasn’t really about Cohen’s statement. The big deal is Mueller apparently has internal Trump Org emails and texts that are the source of the story. Cohen’s confirmation is just more on the pile.

If the story is true Trump is done. Getting 20 republican senators to cross the aisle won’t be a problem.
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I agree, but until we see it 'in writing', it remains mostly based on Cohen's comments right now. It seems to be well sourced right now. I don't think anyone in Congress will act before it is laid bare in front of them.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I agree, but until we see it 'in writing', it remains mostly based on Cohen's comments right now. It seems to be well sourced right now. I don't think anyone in Congress will act before it is laid bare in front of them.

When Barr was questioned on whether he would share the report, it was clear he was going to prepare a summary and his interpretation of the report and while that is a bit concerning in light of his memo; I think even he would be forced to put those cards in front of congress. I sincerely hope we are in fact getting close to the report coming so we can all be put out of our misery.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I agree, but until we see it 'in writing', it remains mostly based on Cohen's comments right now. It seems to be well sourced right now. I don't think anyone in Congress will act before it is laid bare in front of them.

Seems like it is not documented after all

Similar to that unverified dossier

And it drags on more and more
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Seems like it is not documented after all

Similar to that unverified dossier
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Seems like a lot of the dossier has actually been verified and even the author said it was 70 to 90 percent correct.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Seems like a lot of the dossier has actually been verified and even the author said it was 70 to 90 percent correct.
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this is hilarious on so many levels....