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Old 01-15-2019, 07:32 AM   #1
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I was told i was irish , french canadian, english , and indian who know whats true or false

Warren cultural Theft .... what a joke but trumps comments were just brashness... you talk alot about others Hate.. you need to look in the mirror on the topic of hate when it come to Warren
"Warren cultural Theft .... what a joke "

When you and Spence reply with "wrong, that's a joke", with absolutely zero supporting evidence, we all know that you are desperately grasping at straws.

But for the sake of argument, can you explain why she isn't guilty of cultural theft? She claimed to be Native American when applying for a $400,000-a-year job at Harvard, which she got, and for which Harvard advertised that she was a Native American professor.

When asked to provide an authentic Oklahoma Cherokee recipe for a Native American cookbook, she chose a crab omelette. There are two choices here...(1) Warren is stupid enough to honestly believe that crabs were a staple of the diet of the Oklahoma Cherokees, or (2) she's a fraud. There is no third option, so I'd love it if you tell me which you think it is.

"you need to look in the mirror on the topic of hate when it come to Warren"

I happily concede that I hate Elizabeth Warren, and that I pray with all my heart that she gets the nomination. If she gets the nomination, the GOP could nominate Pol Pot and win.
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:00 AM   #2
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"Warren cultural Theft .... what a joke "

When you and Spence reply with "wrong, that's a joke", with absolutely zero supporting evidence, we all know that you are desperately grasping at straws.

But for the sake of argument, can you explain why she isn't guilty of cultural theft? She claimed to be Native American when applying for a $400,000-a-year job at Harvard, which she got, and for which Harvard advertised that she was a Native American professor.

When asked to provide an authentic Oklahoma Cherokee recipe for a Native American cookbook, she chose a crab omelette. There are two choices here...(1) Warren is stupid enough to honestly believe that crabs were a staple of the diet of the Oklahoma Cherokees, or (2) she's a fraud. There is no third option, so I'd love it if you tell me which you think it is.

"you need to look in the mirror on the topic of hate when it come to Warren"

I happily concede that I hate Elizabeth Warren, and that I pray with all my heart that she gets the nomination. If she gets the nomination, the GOP could nominate Pol Pot and win.
This is about Trumps comments not warren action but you love your cause and effect arguments again as. if both are equal

Do you blame the women being raped south of the border ? if they never made the trip they put themselves at risk

Ps Spence and I provide plenty of supporting evidence. Your upset because the facts i do not support your many dubious non factual claims


In 1984, Warren contributed five recipes to a Native American cookbook entitled “Pow Wow Chow:

Wow your using a 34 year old cook book for your arguments how sad is that

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Old 01-15-2019, 08:13 AM   #3
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This is about Trumps comments not warren action but you love your cause and effect arguments again as. if both are equal

Do you blame the women being raped south of the border ? if they never made the trip they put themselves at risk

Ps Spence and I provide plenty of supporting evidence. Your upset because the facts i do not support your many dubious non factual claims
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"This is about Trumps comments not warren action"

LMAO. Is there a law that says you can't switch topics? You called it a joke that people accuse Warren of cultural theft, I merely asked you to defend that. And you can't.

"Do you blame the women being raped south of the border ?"

Wait, I thought this was about Trump's comments and that we weren't allowed to stray from that topic? Since you asked, I will answer (a courtesy you don't show me), no, I don't blame the women, they are the victims.

"Ps Spence and I provide plenty of supporting evidence"

OK, show me the evidence that Warren didn't defraud Harvard.
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:24 AM   #4
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"This is about Trumps comments not warren action"

LMAO. Is there a law that says you can't switch topics? You called it a joke that people accuse Warren of cultural theft, I merely asked you to defend that. And you can't.

"Do you blame the women being raped south of the border ?"

Wait, I thought this was about Trump's comments and that we weren't allowed to stray from that topic? Since you asked, I will answer (a courtesy you don't show me), no, I don't blame the women, they are the victims.

"Ps Spence and I provide plenty of supporting evidence"

OK, show me the evidence that Warren didn't defraud Harvard.
de·fraud
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illegally obtain money from (someone) by deception.

Did Harvard pay her for being an Indian .. or to teach?
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:35 AM   #5
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both. harvard advertised her as a native american professor.

are you seriously going to say, that warren had no incentive to lie on her application? that claimingnto be a native american, wouldn’t give her a better chance of getting the job? you deny this?
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Old 01-15-2019, 09:13 AM   #6
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If she gets the nomination, the GOP could nominate Pol Pot and win.
I'm starting to really worry about what you are praying for.

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I'm starting to really worry about what you are praying for.
well you can stop, because i’m praying for peace and prosperity. which in this country at this time, mostly means republicans.
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She claimed to be Native American when applying for a $400,000-a-year job at Harvard, which she got, and for which Harvard advertised that she was a Native American professor.
She claimed on her job app. that she was Native American? I didn't know that.

Did it help her get the job?

So isn't she Native American give she has like 5% - 10% NA blood?
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She claimed on her job app. that she was Native American? I didn't know that.

Did it help her get the job?

So isn't she Native American give she has like 5% - 10% NA blood?
"She claimed on her job app. that she was Native American? I didn't know that. "

yes, and Harvard advertised her as a Native American professor. Maybe she genuinely believed it. I find that unlikely.

"Did it help her get the job?"

As a professor at Harvard? You bet it did...

"So isn't she Native American give she has like 5% - 10% NA blood"

Nowhere near that much. In fact, the DNA test showed she had less than the average European Caucasian. I'm not sure why or how most of us have more Native American blood than her, but that's the math.

She lied to get a cushy, lucrative job in academia. It's not as bad as murder, and doesn't mean she couldn't make the country a better place. What it might mean, is that there are losers on both sides, and I'd really like a consistent set of standards applied to everyone. I doubt she has as many ethical lapses in her past as Trump does. But liberals don't want to discuss this at all, yet they want to dissect everything Trump does.
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"She claimed on her job app. that she was Native American? I didn't know that. "According to the link below she didn't indicate it on her application.

yes, and Harvard advertised her as a Native American professor. Maybe she genuinely believed it. I find that unlikely.

"Did it help her get the job?"

As a professor at Harvard? You bet it did...See the link below - people in the meeting claim it was never discussed.

"So isn't she Native American give she has like 5% - 10% NA blood"

Nowhere near that much. In fact, the DNA test showed she had less than the average European Caucasian. I'm not sure why or how most of us have more Native American blood than her, but that's the math.

She lied to get a cushy, lucrative job in academia.Where is the proof - that at some point they determined/found out she had some native American blood so they decided to claim they had a minority on staff? It's not as bad as murder, and doesn't mean she couldn't make the country a better place. What it might mean, is that there are losers on both sides, and I'd really like a consistent set of standards applied to everyone. I doubt she has as many ethical lapses in her past as Trump does. But liberals don't want to discuss this at all, yet they want to dissect everything Trump does.more that liberals don't like what he says (although admittedly they don't like what he does also).
Most said they were unaware of her claims to Native American heritage and all but one of the 31 said those claims were not discussed as part of her hire. One professor told the Globe he is unsure whether her heritage came up, but is certain that, if it did, it had no bearing on his vote on Warren’s appointment.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html
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Most said they were unaware of her claims to Native American heritage and all but one of the 31 said those claims were not discussed as part of her hire. One professor told the Globe he is unsure whether her heritage came up, but is certain that, if it did, it had no bearing on his vote on Warren’s appointment.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html
Some alternate facts I guess. I've never heard her deny that she applied to Harvard as a Native American...

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/el...s-controversy/
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"She claimed on her job app. that she was Native American? I didn't know that. "

yes, and Harvard advertised her as a Native American professor. Maybe she genuinely believed it. I find that unlikely.

"Did it help her get the job?"

As a professor at Harvard? You bet it did...

"So isn't she Native American give she has like 5% - 10% NA blood"

Nowhere near that much. In fact, the DNA test showed she had less than the average European Caucasian. I'm not sure why or how most of us have more Native American blood than her, but that's the math.

She lied to get a cushy, lucrative job in academia. It's not as bad as murder, and doesn't mean she couldn't make the country a better place. What it might mean, is that there are losers on both sides, and I'd really like a consistent set of standards applied to everyone. I doubt she has as many ethical lapses in her past as Trump does. But liberals don't want to discuss this at all, yet they want to dissect everything Trump does.
Once again you are repeating mis-truths propagated by right wing media.
I do not agree with Warren on many issues but I do think that some of the issues she raises are important and need to be considered. Your admitted hate for her based on things you have seen in the media is sad, and tragicomical given your defense of most things Trump does including his claiming ethnicity falsely for financial gain.
The Boston Globe did an in depth article on this issue last September, I would challenge you to read it and then rebut it's factual evidence based on factual evidence that you can find.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html

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Once again you are repeating mis-truths propagated by right wing media.
I do not agree with Warren on many issues but I do think that some of the issues she raises are important and need to be considered. Your admitted hate for her based on things you have seen in the media is sad, and tragicomical given your defense of most things Trump does including his claiming ethnicity falsely for financial gain.
The Boston Globe did an in depth article on this issue last September, I would challenge you to read it and then rebut it's factual evidence based on factual evidence that you can find.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html
Oh. So because the Harvard faculty said (after learning she lied)they didn't consider her Native American ancestry in the hiring, that makes it true? Harvard did a some advertising of their belief that they hired a Native American. They thought it was good, back then, that they had a Native American on their faculty.

The Boston Globe is liberal, Therefore it's automatically superior to everything that's not? You say so!!
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Oh. So because the Harvard faculty said (after learning she lied)they didn't consider her Native American ancestry in the hiring, that makes it true? Harvard did a some advertising of their belief that they hired a Native American. They thought it was good, back then, that they had a Native American on their faculty.

The Boston Globe is liberal, Therefore it's automatically superior to everything that's not? You say so!!
I would think you would identify with her since you claim to be the token conservative for Connecticut
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