Trump tweeted he will "Address the Nation

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

I have a feeling once he goes over the data on drug trafficking, human trafficking, gang activity and how dangerous it is for refugees to attempt border crossings in desolate and dangerous areas and with a wall most of the refugees would go through proper channels that could provide medical and other assistance to enter legally. At the end of his speech I have a sneaky feeling that he will end it with

"And because of these immediate threats and inability to act through congress in a timely manner, I am declaring a National Emergency to build the wall."

I think you are spot on.

Wouldn’t one think that our crumbling infrastructure is more important to fund than an archaic wall??
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I think you are spot on.

Wouldn’t one think that our crumbling infrastructure is more important to fund than an archaic wall??
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When has Congress effectively done anything about either? And why couldn't they do both?

Probably because like most issues, they can be used to beat up on the other side.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by detbuch

When has Congress effectively done anything about either? And why couldn't they do both?

Probably because like most issues, they can be used to beat up on the other side.

Thanks Obama

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...47051914722608
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Thanks Obama

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...47051914722608
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So Obama fixed it. $305 billion. Of course, $5 billion for a wall cannot also be done. So it has been fixed. Why cannot the wall be paid for since infrastructure is fixed. So what happened to the fix? How come we have to keep fixing it? Trump has proposed more money than Obama to fix what Obama already fixed. Why has this been a problem for years before Obama and still is? Hundreds of billions and we still need to fix it. Does the money really go into fixing it. Obama's $787 billion stimulus money, much of which was supposed to be spent on infrastructure, didn't stimulate and didn't meaningfully get spent on infrastructure. So he later had to propose more hundreds of billions on infrastructure, but the infrastructure still hasn't been fixed and we must spend hundreds of billions more. Will that finally, if the money is actually spent on infrastructure, fix it? And is it possible, between all of those hundreds of billions going into trillions, as well as the constant billions of pork spent on things we don't even know about, is it possible that $5 billion can be scrounged up for the wall?

I guess it's too much money and we just can't afford it.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by detbuch

When has Congress effectively done anything about either? And why couldn't they do both?

Probably because like most issues, they can be used to beat up on the other side.

Because that would mean tax increases, lean government and maybe those elected politicians might have to give up all the pay raises, pensions and great health insurance. Gee I don’t know, maybe all those immigrants looking for a better life might love a job rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, but I guess they would have to give up the murders, gang meetings, rapes and illegal activities.
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Because that would mean tax increases, lean government and maybe those elected politicians might have to give up all the pay raises, pensions and great health insurance. Gee I don’t know, maybe all those immigrants looking for a better life might love a job rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, but I guess they would have to give up the murders, gang meetings, rapes and illegal activities.
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Don’t you love the catch 22 argument about illegals? They are too lazy to work and will be a drain on our welfare system and yet magically they are going to steal our jobs.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I think you are spot on.

Wouldn’t one think that our crumbling infrastructure is more important to fund than an archaic wall??
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That would fall under "Promises Made, Promises Forgotten"
His neo-liberal approach of getting private funding to it never flew.
and it never caught on as a rally chant, no rhyme to it, "Infrastructure" will never be as good as "build a wall" or "lock them up", just too many syllables.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I think you are spot on.

Wouldn’t one think that our crumbling infrastructure is more important to fund than an archaic wall??
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infastructure is trillions. How many times did you complain from 2009-2016, that infastructure was ignored? Just curious. Or did it only start concerning you in 2017...