Welcome to 2019, when a congresswoman says “we’re going to impeach the mother——er.”

[PaulS]

Never mind that he has insulted Muslims numeous times and she finally has a platform to respond.

But Jim will tell you how the Dems. are worse.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Never mind that he has insulted Muslims numeous times and she finally has a platform to respond.

But Jim will tell you how the Dems. are worse.

Each side has tens of millions of people, plenty of jerks on both sides. But among politicians and TV pundits, where I sit, the liberals are way worse. Their ideas on the economy are abject failures, many (not all) of their social issues are just weird, so instead of explaining why their ideas are better, they engage in attacks. It's all they have.

Trump may be one of the worst individuals out there. But he is constantly criticized by fellow Republicans. Who on your side told Hilary that her "deplorables" comment was offensive? Who on your side will say that this maniac's language is every bit as disgusting as Trumps?

And here is a sincere question, not trying to be a wise guy...what did Trump do, to insult Muslims? The travel ban? If that's what you're referring to, that's a joke. The ban didn't include countries with the largest Muslim populations on the planet. The ban wasn't targeting "Muslims", it was targeting Muslims from specific nations, which the Obama administration said were hotbeds of terror and which didn't do a good job of vetting who was who. If he wanted to ban all Muslims, why wasn't Turkey on the list of countries to which the ban applied?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Each side has tens of millions of people, plenty of jerks on both sides. But among politicians and TV pundits, where I sit, the liberals are way worse. Their ideas on the economy are abject failures, many (not all) of their social issues are just weird, so instead of explaining why their ideas are better, they engage in attacks. It's all they have.
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See I disagree - I see the Repub. electing fowl mouthed, racist people constantly - people under indictment and they don't care. Look at the constant insults in this forum that come from the Repubs.

Look at the hypocrisy coming out of the Repub. supporting everything Trump says (the changing of the platform not to criticize Russia) tariffs (how many soy beans did we sell to China in Nov and Dec.?), insulting our allies, the swooning over the stock market (remember how you were enjoying the increase in your 401K) yet now they've developed lock jaw over his causing the market to crater, the lack of concern over the deficit (and it is not the same to have a deficit when the economy sucks like when Obama was left the worse economy since the depression vs when Trump was left one cruising along). Also, the hypocrisy of the Right hating the government except when the Right needs $ to put food on their table. Don't forget the Right leaning states get far more in govern. $ back on average then they pay to the government. They gladly have their hand out yet complain about the government at the same time.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by PaulS

yet now they've developed lock jaw over his causing the market to crater,

although up a lot today

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

although up a lot today

How has the market done, since he has been in office? And interesting that you only brought up the stock market, not GDP or unemployment.

And how do you know he caused this, as opposed to it being an organic correction, as those do happen sometimes, it's not always anyone's fault.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

How has the market done, since he has been in office? It has gone up but less than the same # of months during Obama's admin. And interesting that you only brought up the stock market, not GDP or unemployment. all have continued with the same trend that was occuring prior to his being elected. Edit - the trend on the deficit sure changed.

And how do you know he caused this, as opposed to it being an organic correction, as those do happen sometimes, it's not always anyone's fault.

Didn't you claim in the past that the stock was going up bc of Trump?

Apple decline was related to China and tarrifs - they said so. Trump claimed a tarriff war was easy to win. Didn't he even call himself Mr tarriff?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

But he is constantly criticized by fellow Republicans. Who on your side told Hilary that her "deplorables" comment was offensive? Who on your side will say that this maniac's language is every bit as disgusting as Trumps?

Pls. Republicans are mostly silent when it comes to Trump. The way he treats the generals is appalling (yet he was a draft dodger). Some Repubs. will criticize some things Trump says but they will act like they don't remember anything he said the next day.

For about the 100th time - didn't Hillary apologize the very next day for saying that? I know if your children said something and apologized and never said it again you wouldn't constantly bring it up.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Pls. Republicans are mostly silent when it comes to Trump. The way he treats the generals is appalling (yet he was a draft dodger). Some Repubs. will criticize some things Trump says but they will act like they don't remember anything he said the next day.

For about the 100th time - didn't Hillary apologize the very next day for saying that? I know if your children said something and apologized and never said it again you wouldn't constantly bring it up.

formthe 100th time, she apologized after she said it, and after people
told
her that it would
benefit her politically to do so. you didn’t answer
my question, where was the outcry on the left when she said it?

there is a lot
more to the gop than trump. compare paul ryan and mitch mcconnell to nancy pelosi and chuck schumer? come on.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

formthe 100th time, she apologized after she said it, and after people
told
her that it would
benefit her politically to do so. you didn’t answer
my question, where was the outcry on the left when she said it?


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Do you mean this awful statement, that you and other Trumplicans have extracted one word from and repeated it endlessly?
That word somehow justifies the multitude of awful statements and enabling of racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic groups by Trump.
And remember the Call and response "Who's paying for the wall?" Chorus: Mexico

"I know there are only 60 days left to make our case — and don’t get complacent, don’t see the latest outrageous, offensive, inappropriate comment and think well he’s done this time. We are living in a volatile political environment. You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?

[Laughter/applause]

The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people — now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks — they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America. But the other basket — and I know this because I see friends from all over America here — I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Do you mean this awful statement, that you and other Trumplicans have extracted one word from and repeated it endlessly?
That word somehow justifies the multitude of awful statements and enabling of racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic groups by Trump.
And remember the Call and response "Who's paying for the wall?" Chorus: Mexico

"I know there are only 60 days left to make our case — and don’t get complacent, don’t see the latest outrageous, offensive, inappropriate comment and think well he’s done this time. We are living in a volatile political environment. You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?

[Laughter/applause]

The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people — now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks — they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America. But the other basket — and I know this because I see friends from all over America here — I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."

"you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?"

She's talking about tens of millions of Americans.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Do you mean this awful statement, that you and other Trumplicans have extracted one word from and repeated it endlessly? That word somehow justifies the multitude of awful statements and enabling of racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic groups by Trump.

There was more than one word that made her statement awful. Her whole statement was awful. And it enabled or justified calling people who supported Trump rather than Hillary racists, sexists, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic. It was an ugly, divisive politicized statement that is worse than anything I recall Trump saying.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

There was more than one word that made her statement awful. Her whole statement was awful. And it enabled or justified calling people who supported Trump rather than Hillary racists, sexists, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic. It was an ugly, divisive politicized statement that is worse than anything I recall Trump saying.

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