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12-30-2018, 07:32 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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How about locally, how many times do we see someone killing a pour sole while operating under the influence and it’s their 3rd, 4th or 5th offense. Repeat offenders in this country that are allowed to slip through our legal system are a bigger issue than the odd illegal.
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12-30-2018, 07:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
How about locally, how many times do we see someone killing a pour sole while operating under the influence and it’s their 3rd, 4th or 5th offense. Repeat offenders in this country that are allowed to slip through our legal system are a bigger issue than the odd illegal.
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I oppose the killing of pour soles by drunks....
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12-30-2018, 08:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
How about locally, how many times do we see someone killing a pour sole while operating under the influence and it’s their 3rd, 4th or 5th offense. Repeat offenders in this country that are allowed to slip through our legal system are a bigger issue than the odd illegal.
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is anyone saying we should
only prosecute illegals who get dui, but ignore citizens who get dui’s? why not punish everyone who drives drunk?
no one said that illegals are driving the dui epidemic. once again, responding to something that no one came close to saying.
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12-30-2018, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
is anyone saying we should
only prosecute illegals who get dui, but ignore citizens who get dui’s? why not punish everyone who drives drunk?
no one said that illegals are driving the dui epidemic. once again, responding to something that no one came close to saying.
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Point I was making was, DUI is a national issue, not an illegal immigration issue. Yesterday coming off cape from playing golf in Hyannis a guy maybe in his 50's almost side swipes me as he passed me and after watching him almost go off the road three times, I called 911 and bourne police then patched me through to the state police. This guy was hammered and an accident just waiting to happen and I backed way off as he went up on the bridge and he came within an inch from pounding into the tall curb, which likely would have shot his small SUV right back across into oncoming traffic. Our legal system just isn't doing the job to keep these repeat offenders off our roads and most are US citizens not illegal immigrants. Again, I'm all for reporting criminals to ICE if illegal, you want to be a US citizen, then you better have respect for our laws. If not send them home.
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12-30-2018, 11:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Point I was making was, DUI is a national issue, not an illegal immigration issue. Yesterday coming off cape from playing golf in Hyannis a guy maybe in his 50's almost side swipes me as he passed me and after watching him almost go off the road three times, I called 911 and bourne police then patched me through to the state police. This guy was hammered and an accident just waiting to happen and I backed way off as he went up on the bridge and he came within an inch from pounding into the tall curb, which likely would have shot his small SUV right back across into oncoming traffic. Our legal system just isn't doing the job to keep these repeat offenders off our roads and most are US citizens not illegal immigrants. Again, I'm all for reporting criminals to ICE if illegal, you want to be a US citizen, then you better have respect for our laws. If not send them home.
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nobody said dui is an immigration issue. there is one issue, one. is it good policy to let illegals
stay, after they continue to commit crimes here? that’s the only question.
no one is saying all
immigrants are bad, or all drunks, or all cop
killers. no one.
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12-30-2018, 11:36 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
nobody said dui is an immigration issue. there is one issue, one. is it good policy to let illegals
stay, after they continue to commit crimes here? that’s the only question.
no one is saying all
immigrants are bad, or all drunks, or all cop
killers. no one.
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Nobody except POTUS
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12-30-2018, 11:50 AM
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Nobody except POTUS
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not true, and not relevant. he said
many are fine people. in the same talk where he said there are rapists and drug dealers, he said
many are fine people. why is it that your side always leaves that part out?
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12-30-2018, 01:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
not true, and not relevant. he said
many are fine people. in the same talk where he said there are rapists and drug dealers, he said
many are fine people. why is it that your side always leaves that part out?
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Well if I hear 100:1 ratio of the bad to good references from him, it’s hard to hear the one. His MO is say it enough times and people will believe it, pick a phrase he has repeated adnausium and the pattern is clear.
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12-30-2018, 01:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
there is one issue, one. is it good policy to let illegals stay, after they continue to commit crimes here? that’s the only question.
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No
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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12-30-2018, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
No
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but somehow, there are people who disagree. it’s our inability to agree on things this obvious, which makes me sad that i don’t know what unites us anymore.
people are passing laws
forbidding local cops
with alerting ICE to illegals
who commit crime. Do we have a supremacy clause or
not? what does it mean, why was it written?
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12-30-2018, 06:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
people are passing laws
forbidding local cops
with alerting ICE to illegals
who commit crime.
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Well, this isn’t really true. Even in CA which has the broadest sanctuary law anywhere there are like 800 crimes that are exempt. The point is to not focus on the petty stuff in exchange for better cooperation with the local PD and make a safer environment for everyone.
If an illegal is caught committing a violent crime, running drugs, a serious threat to safety etc... there’s nothing stopping local PD from working with ICE.
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12-31-2018, 07:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Point I was making was, DUI is a national issue, not an illegal immigration issue. Yesterday coming off cape from playing golf in Hyannis a guy maybe in his 50's almost side swipes me as he passed me and after watching him almost go off the road three times, I called 911 and bourne police then patched me through to the state police. This guy was hammered and an accident just waiting to happen and I backed way off as he went up on the bridge and he came within an inch from pounding into the tall curb, which likely would have shot his small SUV right back across into oncoming traffic. Our legal system just isn't doing the job to keep these repeat offenders off our roads and most are US citizens not illegal immigrants. Again, I'm all for reporting criminals to ICE if illegal, you want to be a US citizen, then you better have respect for our laws. If not send them home.
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Well said about reporting to ICE. I can't believe I live in a country in which the mayor of a major city - Oakland - can get away with doing just the opposite .... "Hey you illegals, especially those of you who are criminals, look out. ICE is coming". Why isn't she in jail?
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