Promises made.......

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

yep many felt that way about obama for very different reasons .. No we the government we deserve when individuals like yourself would rather throw stuff from the peanut gallery. and see no evil speak no evil hear no evil .. then actually pay attention

"many felt that way about obama for very different reasons "

The conservative opposition to Obama was nothing like this. Where were the riots? The right responded by getting right to work and forming the tea party. And it worked. No riots. There was no large scale right-wing equivalent to Occupy Wall Street or Black Lives Matter or Antifa. None.

The entire media was absolutely in the tank for Obama except for one TV station, which 1% of the country watches on a good night, and liberals act like it's an Orwellian thing. One percent.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"many felt that way about obama for very different reasons "

The conservative opposition to Obama was nothing like this. Where were the riots? The right responded by getting right to work and forming the tea party. And it worked. No riots. There was no large scale right-wing equivalent to Occupy Wall Street or Black Lives Matter or Antifa. None.

The entire media was absolutely in the tank for Obama except for one TV station, which 1% of the country watches on a good night, and liberals act like it's an Orwellian thing. One percent.

Your right it was nothing like this. It was all the most petty stuff - he wore a brown suit in the oval office (I think one senator called it treason) and he saluted w/a coffee cup in his other hand. A lot was based on out right lies - ie his country, his religion, etc. Made up scandals that had nothing at all to do with him - IRS.

We talked about this a few times - Antifa has NOTHING at all to do with the Dems. but bc Neo Nazis praise Trump you try to come up with a Dem. equivalant.

Let's not forget that studies have shown that Fox news watchers actually know less about news than people who don't watch any news at all. Also, their ees actually get on stage at his rallies and promote him. Pointing out the daily (hourly?) lies is not being in the tank for someone. Pointing out how the Repub. have changed on the evironment or foreigh policy or trade is not being in the tank for someone.

Let's hear more but but Obama. Remember when if anyone said that about Bush the rightys panty's got all bunched up.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The entire media was absolutely in the tank for Obama except for one TV station, which 1% of the country watches on a good night, and liberals act like it's an Orwellian thing. One percent.

Show us the data that comes close to proving that
Another victim lie

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Show us the data that comes close to proving that
Another victim lie

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...s-sets-record/

https://sites.middlebury.edu/preside...into-the-tank/

http://markhumphrys.com/media.obama.html

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...gns-final-week

https://freebeacon.com/politics/comp...gazine-covers/

Then there's the empirical evidence...the NYT said McCain had a mistress, the media said that Romney objectified women because he kept a binder of resumes of impressive women on him. On the 2008 election night, a CNN reporter wept with joy at Obama's election, Chris Mathews with the tingle up his leg, etc...

Not everything that makes your side look bad, is a lie.

I don't lie. I don't have to. My goal isn't to always defend one side or the other, so I can happily easily embrace things that (in my opinion) make conservatives look bad, like opposition to gay marriage. When you aren't blindly married to one ideology or the other, there's no reason to lie. You are the one who needs to lie, because you can't accept any truth which doesn't paint liberalism in a favorable light. I willingly go wherever the truth and common sense take me, which is why I agree with liberals on gay marriage and the death penalty and to a lesser extent, gun control. And it's why I can say with 100% certainty, that every TV station except one, is obviously in the tank for the democrats.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

And it's why I can say with 100% certainty, that every TV station except one, is obviously in the tank for the democrats.

Show me the data that shows that statement is true