How about that migrant caravan ??

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Originally Posted by Pete F.

Better panic
The numbers are dropping
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/22/62224...n-three-graphs
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We can still tear gas the kids though right?
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[DZ]

Put yourself as a parent in this situation. If I see or hear of tear gas being used I pull back to protect my children and wait my turn to enter the U.S. legally. No one wants to see kids being tear gassed but Parents/guardians carry the first line of responsibility in this situation.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

We can still tear gas the kids though right?
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are we targeting kids for tear gas? or using tear gas when rocks are thrown at border patrol agents, which has tragic collateral damage? maybe the parents of these kids, should
not place their
kids near people throwing rocks at US law enforcement.

So you see no unusual
concerns with violence in Chicago, but you have concerns with responding when people throw rocks at american law enforcement officials. at least, that response bothers you, when the POTUS is a loathsome republican.

liberal =good, conservative=bad, no exceptions. Shocker.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

We can still tear gas the kids though right?
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when the previous administration used pepper spray at the border, did you express concern? or is it only problematic to you, when the potus is a republican?

how about we have one set of rules for what’s acceptable and what’s not, and we apply those rules consistently, regardless of the party of the potus? What do you say?

When obama does it, it’s worthy of the nobel peace prize.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/...order-in-2013/
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

when the previous administration used pepper spray at the border, did you express concern? or is it only problematic to you, when the potus is a republican?

how about we have one set of rules for what’s acceptable and what’s not, and we apply those rules consistently, regardless of the party of the potus? What do you say?

When obama does it, it’s worthy of the nobel peace prize.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/...order-in-2013/
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once again you cant see the forest through the Trees

and justify it with with more whataboutism .. While completely ignoring how Trump has set the table and he has given what they call His commander's intent


The White House has authorized active-duty military troops stationed along the southwest border to use lethal force

Trump himself also suggested that the US troops US-Mexico border could use deadly force and fire on someone in the migrant caravan if the person threw rocks or stones at them.

I have no issue using tear gas to disperse any Mob after a superbowl or on the border but I assure you obama never restricted border agent rules of engagement.. nor did he personally give them the green light like Trumps has .. but it seems those on the right have adopted the everyone's done it... argument ....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

once again you cant see the forest through the Trees

and justify it with with more whataboutism .. While completely ignoring how Trump has set the table and he has given what they call His commander's intent


The White House has authorized active-duty military troops stationed along the southwest border to use lethal force

Trump himself also suggested that the US troops US-Mexico border could use deadly force and fire on someone in the migrant caravan if the person threw rocks or stones at them.

I have no issue using tear gas to disperse any Mob after a superbowl or on the border but I assure you obama never restricted border agent rules of engagement.. nor did he personally give them the green light like Trumps has .. but it seems those on the right have adopted the everyone's done it... argument ....

It cracks me up, that pointing out obvious hypocrisy, is a character flaw of mine ( whataboutism), rather than a character flaw of
the hypocrites.

WDMSO, does it bother you that the obama administration also did this? Yes or
no?

I’d just like a little consistency, that’s all. If that makes me guilty of whataboutism, i could care less.

Rocks were thrown, and as far as i know, no shots were fired despite Trumps order that they kill everybody.

I don’t have a huge issue with shooting people who throw rocks at people we send to dangerous places. there’s an easy way to avoid getting shot to death - don’t throw rocks. How hard is that?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It cracks me up, that pointing out obvious hypocrisy, is a character flaw of mine ( whataboutism), rather than a character flaw of
the hypocrites.

WDMSO, does it bother you that the obama administration also did this? Yes or
no?

I’d just like a little consistency, that’s all. If that makes me guilty of whataboutism, i could care less.

Rocks were thrown, and as far as i know, no shots were fired despite Trumps order that they kill everybody.

I don’t have a huge issue with shooting people who throw rocks at people we send to dangerous places. there’s an easy way to avoid getting shot to death - don’t throw rocks. How hard is that?
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1st you don't care about hypocrisy you just use it in an attempt to defend Trump and his actions ,,, trying to suggest both are the same it's a tactic used by the right daily

and not having an issue with shooting people who throw rocks goes along way in showing your lack of character .

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

and not having an issue with shooting people who throw rocks goes along way in showing your lack of character .

Maybe you want to take that up with Micheal Chesna's Widow?

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Maybe you want to take that up with Micheal Chesna's Widow?

Ummmmm, not really.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Maybe you want to take that up with Micheal Chesna's Widow?

another example of the right using a fallen officer who died doing his job to support the use of deadly force on people who throw rocks ..

making the suggestion these events are the same ....

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

and not having an issue with shooting people who throw rocks goes along way in showing your lack of character .

Lack of character? You want to talk about lack of character? People who throw rocks at other people who are not doing anything to them don't show the character of anyone I want coming here.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Lack of character? You want to talk about lack of character? People who throw rocks at other people who are not doing anything to them don't show the character of anyone I want coming here.

So you either support the use of deadly force on all people in all events where things are thrown at police or you do not it's not a hard choice .

Or do you support this simply because of who they are are and where they are from

its sad that our troops in Afghanistan wouldn't shoot people who throw rocks in a combat zone .. yet some American here see no issue with the idea ... must be that MAGA thing