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11-18-2018, 09:16 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Trump doesn't come up with these ideas on his own. And his less than eloquent and imprecise way of communicating them doesn't help his image when they're added to by those who wish to call him stupid without researching if he has a point.
Forest mismanagement, especially regarding major forest fires, has been a political issue for at least the past few years.
Various solutions have been offered, such as the one Cool Beans offered here. there are also complaints about not reducing overgrowth by preset, controlled fires.
Trump brings up these problems and solutions in his inimitable way of sounding foolish, which is immediately jumped on by his naysayers, and another clown meme is created.
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http://thelens.news/2017/01/24/plann...in-washington/
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And why do you think this is suddenly required, do you think climate change might be contributing? Why do you think building codes on our own seaport are changing and disaster planning is having to address flooding in areas they didn’t in years past. Trump thinks the change is only temporary and the scientific community warning us of things to come, just has a hidden political agenda.
You can rake the forest and encourage clear cutting, but those might be just bandages for a short term fix.
I also think that in light of the suffering and losses, that is not the time to be putting the blame on forestry management, but he likes to throw paper towels and hand out leaf rakes in times of dispare.
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11-18-2018, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
And why do you think this is suddenly required, do you think climate change might be contributing? Why do you think building codes on our own seaport are changing and disaster planning is having to address flooding in areas they didn’t in years past. Trump thinks the change is only temporary and the scientific community warning us of things to come, just has a hidden political agenda.
You can rake the forest and encourage clear cutting, but those might be just bandages for a short term fix.
I also think that in light of the suffering and losses, that is not the time to be putting the blame on forestry management, but he likes to throw paper towels and hand out leaf rakes in times of dispare.
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By all means, let us not pay attention to short term fix bandages.
As for the rest, I don't know, you seem to be certain, or more certain than not. I suspect if the people of California want to initiate climate change policies that prevent forest fires, they can do it. We've been told over and over that California is richer than most other countries. It is probably the most progressive State in the union. No doubt the California politicians and government planners are smarter than Trump. They can surely do the long term fix without Trump.
Governor Jerry Brown was appreciative of the work FEMA was doing and thanked Trump for calling attention to the problem. Trump said there will be federal funding for forest management. That there will be state and federal cooperation on the problem.
But, of course, Trump is a clown.
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11-20-2018, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
You can rake the forest and encourage clear cutting, but those might be just bandages for a short term fix.
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But WRT fires, this has been the proper solution for some time. Why do they do controlled burns from Wareham thru the Cape? Before and independent of Global Warming?
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
I also think that in light of the suffering and losses, that is not the time to be putting the blame on forestry management,
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Yes, but blaming Trump is OK ; )
I generally can't stand the guy and didn't vote for him. Still not convinced he is worse than she would have been.
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11-20-2018, 10:59 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by JohnR
But WRT fires, this has been the proper solution for some time. Why do they do controlled burns from Wareham thru the Cape? Before and independent of Global Warming?
Yes, but blaming Trump is OK ; )
I generally can't stand the guy and didn't vote for him. Still not convinced he is worse than she would have been.
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I'm not arguing that controlled burns should be part of the solution, clearly that is sound management, but I also see the climate change in that part of the country and the terrain severely limiting the affect that will have. Consider the heat, how dry everything is and then put 70 mph winds up the face of a rugged mountainside and your controlled burns better be a mile wide.
As for beating up on Trump, IMHO the amount of empathy that guy has shown could fit in a shot glass. He's great to try to show some after the media calls him out on comments he's made; but he always seem to want to lay blame on something or somebody well ahead of any empathy shown.
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