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10-26-2018, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
do you ever get one right, even by accident? the conservative philosophy is to avoid wasteful spending to keep taxes for everyone, no higher than they need to be. try poking holes in that. if conservatives have no empathy or pity, why does the new york times admit that conservatives give more
money and time to charity, than liberals do?
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We've discussed this 20 times - the conserv. give $ to their church (like I do w/about 50% of my yearly donations). Take that out and factor in the amount of poor who vote D, then it is prob different.
Any your's and my donations can't make up for what the govern. does.
Fact is that the conserv. policies always try to cut back on spending to the poor. Shows their lack of empathy.
Both Tillerson and G. Cohen said that Trump has no empathy (and pity) and Trump pretty much owns the R party now.
And you always complain that the Ds. ripped Romney apart. They did - bc he said he didn't have to worry about 47% of the country (shows his lack of empathy although I don't want to put him in the category as Trump). If Obama said he didn't care about almost 50% of the country you would have posted that 500 times.
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10-26-2018, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
We've discussed this 20 times - the conserv. give $ to their church (like I do w/about 50% of my yearly donations). Take that out and factor in the amount of poor who vote D, then it is prob different.
Any your's and my donations can't make up for what the govern. does.
Fact is that the conserv. policies always try to cut back on spending to the poor. Shows their lack of empathy.
Both Tillerson and G. Cohen said that Trump has no empathy (and pity) and Trump pretty much owns the R party now.
And you always complain that the Ds. ripped Romney apart. They did - bc he said he didn't have to worry about 47% of the country (shows his lack of empathy although I don't want to put him in the category as Trump). If Obama said he didn't care about almost 50% of the country you would have posted that 500 times.
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" Take that out and factor in the amount of poor who vote D, then it is prob different."
Why take out church donations, much of which goes to help the poor? Can't imagine why you'd suggest to ignore that..
"They did - bc he said he didn't have to worry about 47% of the country "
He absolutely deserved criticism for that. I have no problem with fair criticism, as long as you also give credit where credit is due. There are many, many examples of Romney's empathy and generosity. The media also called him a sexist because he had women's resumes in a binder. That was asinine. But that is what CNN did, and it was a joke.
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10-26-2018, 12:50 PM
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" Take that out and factor in the amount of poor who vote D, then it is prob different."
Why take out church donations, much of which goes to help the poor? Can't imagine why you'd suggest to ignore that.. Bc it is a little self serving. If I give $ for my church most people won't be able to benefit like I would. I can now sit in a nice new beautiful church and enjoy all the things my donation made possible (the coffee hour after church, the language classes, the sports programs, the bible study, etc).
"They did - bc he said he didn't have to worry about 47% of the country "
He absolutely deserved criticism for that. I have no problem with fair criticism, as long as you also give credit where credit is due. There are many, many examples of Romney's empathy and generosity. The media also called him a sexist because he had women's resumes in a binder. That was asinine. But that is what CNN did, and it was a joke.
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I am sure he is far far more generous than Pres. Trump - esp. being a Morman. But isn't that what people do during elections - find something and blow it up to make someone look bad?
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10-26-2018, 01:13 PM
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I am sure he is far far more generous than Pres. Trump - esp. being a Morman. But isn't that what people do during elections - find something and blow it up to make someone look bad?
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you make it sound like donations to your church mostly serve the parish. that’s not how a lot of churches handle donations. the catholic church spends a ton housing, feeding, and providing medical care, for the poor.
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10-26-2018, 01:32 PM
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you make it sound like donations to your church mostly serve the parish. that’s not how a lot of churches handle donations. the catholic church spends a ton housing, feeding, and providing medical care, for the poor.
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I think most donations go towards the running/mortgage of the church. No doubt most churches do all they can - soup kitchens, etc.
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10-26-2018, 12:45 PM
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Both Tillerson and G. Cohen said that Trump has no empathy (and pity) and Trump pretty much owns the R party now.
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So why did Trump, many years ago, donate his jet for a sick child to use, to fly all his medical equipment across the country? And how generous he has been with fallen cops? But Tillerson says he has no empathy, and by jiminy, that's good enough for you.
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10-26-2018, 12:52 PM
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So why did Trump, many years ago, donate his jet for a sick child to use, to fly all his medical equipment across the country? And how generous he has been with fallen cops? But Tillerson says he has no empathy, and by jiminy, that's good enough for you.
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Big deal - he did it many many years ago as you mentioned. There are not many examples of his being generous in NY. And I know you know how he has gotten in trouble for his foundation paying for fines and a painting out of its funds. I think NY is now suing him over more issues w/the foundation.
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