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10-25-2018, 08:50 AM
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So it is the Democratic platform that the Republicans are evil yet it is our Repub.pres. who uses that type of language to refer to the Press and to democrats. You have people on the right who are saying this is a plot by the Clintons. When Gabby Giffords got shot it was the fault of the deranged person who did it. When Steve scalise got shot it was the fault of the Democrats and their rhetoric. now when bombs are being sent to every prominent person who speaks out against Trump it is the fault of only that deranged individual. It is tough to keep it all straight
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10-25-2018, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
So it is the Democratic platform that the Republicans are evil yet it is our Repub.pres. who uses that type of language to refer to the Press and to democrats. You have people on the right who are saying this is a plot by the Clintons. When Gabby Giffords got shot it was the fault of the deranged person who did it. When Steve scalise got shot it was the fault of the Democrats and their rhetoric. now when bombs are being sent to every prominent person who speaks out against Trump it is the fault of only that deranged individual. It is tough to keep it all straight
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Scrolled through this thread 3 times, didn't see that mentioned here at all. |
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10-25-2018, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Scrolled through this thread 3 times, didn't see that mentioned here at all.
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Search on Steve scalise or on Gifford
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10-25-2018, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
So it is the Democratic platform that the Republicans are evil yet it is our Repub.pres. who uses that type of language to refer to the Press and to democrats. You have people on the right who are saying this is a plot by the Clintons. When Gabby Giffords got shot it was the fault of the deranged person who did it. When Steve scalise got shot it was the fault of the Democrats and their rhetoric. now when bombs are being sent to every prominent person who speaks out against Trump it is the fault of only that deranged individual. It is tough to keep it all straight
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"So it is the Democratic platform that the Republicans are evil"
Yes. Remember the deplorables comment? Or Obama calling us bitter clingers who dislike people who don't look like us? Or when Obama said that Republicans hate everybody? That's about as bad as most of what Trump says. But you don't complain when democrats do it.
"You have people on the right "
For the millionth time, I'm not saying there aren't kooks on the right, of course there are. I'm saying the kooks are extremists on my side, whereas the kooks are mainstream on your side. Compare Paul Ryan to Nancy Pelosi? Compare Chuck Schumer to Mitch McConnell? Who are the truly moderate democrats? There aren't many anymore, because the party has become the party of George Soros, not the party of Bill Clinton. Where are the moderates liberals in Congress, or on TV? There aren't many. Where are the liberal equivalents of Lindsay Graham and John McCain? They no longer exist.
Pointing to a radical individual, doesn't make me wrong. I'm talking about what the "typical" conservative looks like, compared to the "typical" liberal. At the federal level, the democratic party is a million miles further to the left, than the GOP is to the right. Conservatives are constantly frustrated by Ryan, McConnell, and to a lesser extent Trump.
No comparison. None. |
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10-25-2018, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"So it is the Democratic platform that the Republicans are evil"
Yes. Remember the deplorables comment? Or Obama calling us bitter clingers who dislike people who don't look like us? Or when Obama said that Republicans hate everybody? That's about as bad as most of what Trump says. But you don't complain when democrats do it
None of that is remotely close to the constant garbage that comes out of president Trumps mouth. Somehow with you there is a moral equivalency when a Dem. says something once ( and then apologizes) and when a Rep. repeatedly says something much worse 100s of times.
"You have people on the right "
For the millionth time, I'm not saying there aren't kooks on the right, of course there are. I'm saying the kooks are extremists on my side, whereas the kooks are mainstream on your side. Compare Paul Ryan to Nancy Pelosi? Compare Chuck Schumer to Mitch McConnell? Who are the truly moderate democrats? There aren't many anymore, because the party has become the party of George Soros, not the party of Bill Clinton. Where are the moderates liberals in Congress, or on TV? There aren't many. Where are the liberal equivalents of Lindsay Graham and John McCain? They no longer exist.
Pointing to a radical individual, doesn't make me wrong. I'm talking about what the "typical" conservative looks like, compared to the "typical" liberal. At the federal level, the democratic party is a million miles further to the left, than the GOP is to the right. Conservatives are constantly frustrated by Ryan, McConnell, and to a lesser extent Trump.
No comparison. None.
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the biggest kook of them all is the president of the United States and last I remember he was Republican.
His approval rating among Repub. is extremely high so obviously most Republicans think the same him
There is no comparison bt the Rights rally's and the Democratic rally's. The lock em up chants for people who have done nothing wrong shows what sorry people Trump supporters have turned into. And callling Democrats treasonous is ridiculous. If you think today's Republican Party is the same as Nixon or even Reagan's you're living in a fantasy world.
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10-25-2018, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
the biggest kook of them all is the president of the United States and last I remember he was Republican.
His approval rating among Repub. is extremely high so obviously most Republicans think the same him
There is no comparison bt the Rights rally's and the Democratic rally's. The lock em up chants for people who have done nothing wrong shows what sorry people Trump supporters have turned into. And callling Democrats treasonous is ridiculous. If you think today's Republican Party is the same as Nixon or even Reagan's you're living in a fantasy world.
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"the biggest kook of them all is the president of the United States and last I remember he was Republican."
HERE'S WHAT YOU FORGOT TO MENTION.
When Trump acts like a jerk, which is often, huge numbers of influential republicans call him out. That doesn't happen on the left. Not nearly to the same extent. Charles Kraithammer was probably the single most influential conservative pundit, and he despised Trump.
The left acted like this when Bush was president, and they never stopped the personal attacks on McCain or Romney. So let's drop the nonsense that Trump is causing all this. The left first embraced insane personal attacks when Bush was president, and they haven't stopped since. When you are wrong on the facts and results and empirical evidence and common sense, you throw bombs. . When you are backed into a corner, this is what you do. |
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10-25-2018, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
There is no comparison bt the Rights rally's and the Democratic rally's. The lock em up chants for people who have done nothing wrong shows what sorry people Trump supporters have turned into.
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yep...trump supporters shout "lock em up among" themselves while the left actually goes out to harass and beat them up...
you are right...no comparison |
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10-25-2018, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
yep...trump supporters shout "lock em up among" themselves while the left actually goes out to harass and beat them up...
you are right...no comparison
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Seems like those neonazis who love Trump would disagree. And let's not forget those reporters who needed security at his rallies. So I guess you agree with those nutsl who think the Democrats planted the bombs.
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10-25-2018, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
So I guess you agree with those nutsl who think the Democrats planted the bombs.
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we don't really know.... but since none of them went off I'm suspecting a dumbocrat  |
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10-25-2018, 09:08 AM
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It is tough to keep it all straight
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Then I'll make it easy for you. There are jerks and maniacs on both sides. There are extremists on both sides. There aren't a meaningful number of thoughtful moderates on both sides, the moderates, from what I can tell, are almost all in the GOP.
Who in the democratic senate is as friendly with the GOP, as McCain and Graham are with the left? Manchin might vote with the GOP occasionally at election time, but that's it.
You don't judge either side by the actions of a tiny number of lunatics who don't speak for anyone else.. You judge them by what's considered "mainstream" on each side. So compare Paul Ryan to Nancy Pelosi, and that makes my point. Just compare the leadership of the house on both sides, that illustrates my point. |
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10-25-2018, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Then I'll make it easy for you. There are jerks and maniacs on both sides. There are extremists on both sides. There aren't a meaningful number of thoughtful moderates on both sides, the moderates, from what I can tell, are almost all in the GOP.
Who in the democratic senate is as friendly with the GOP, as McCain and Graham are with the left? Manchin might vote with the GOP occasionally at election time, but that's it.
You don't judge either side by the actions of a tiny number of lunatics who don't speak for anyone else.. You judge them by what's considered "mainstream" on each side. So compare Paul Ryan to Nancy Pelosi, and that makes my point. Just compare the leadership of the house on both sides, that illustrates my point.
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What you claim is incorrect, 20% of the democrats vote with Trump positions more than 40% of the time
Do you expect them to agree 100%, only three republicans have done that and one of those he made Attorney General
Here is the data
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...s-trump-score/ |
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