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10-02-2018, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
lot's of actual evidence in all of those....adults, in office behaving badly....
Nancy Pelosi regarding Conyers...
“Just because someone is accused — was it one accusation? Was it two?
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What was the evidence with Franken? |
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10-02-2018, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
What was the evidence with Franken?
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well there was a photo of him groping, or at the very least pretending to fondle, a sleeping soldier, like a pervert.
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10-02-2018, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
well there was a photo of him groping, or at the very least pretending to fondle, a sleeping soldier, like a pervert.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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He is a comedian and we all know he never touched her (and that is why you added the last part).
So the Dems. made a man quit even though you just admitted he never touched her and yet the Repubs. elected someone who has multiple sex accusations against him (and let's not forget Roy Moore where 550,000 people voted for a pervert/pedophile) and you think the Dems are the party that is morally bankrupt. 
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10-02-2018, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
He is a comedian and we all know he never touched her (and that is why you added the last part).
So the Dems. made a man quit even though you just admitted he never touched her and yet the Repubs. elected someone who has multiple sex accusations against him (and let's not forget Roy Moore where 550,000 people voted for a pervert/pedophile) and you think the Dems are the party that is morally bankrupt. |
That's not fair, you know he doesn't like Trump and besides he has .................. |
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10-02-2018, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
That's not fair, you know he doesn't like Trump and besides he has ..................
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Accusations are not evidence. They are accusations. |
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10-02-2018, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Accusations are not evidence. They are accusations.
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Truth has nothing to do with it.
"You've got to deny, deny, deny and push back on these women, If you admit to anything and any culpability, then you're dead." |
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10-02-2018, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Truth has nothing to do with it.
"You've got to deny, deny, deny and push back on these women, If you admit to anything and any culpability, then you're dead."
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Truth has everything to do with it for me, and unfortunately, in this case we likely won't ever know the truth. And in this country, according to our vision of justice, when we can't establish what happened, we treat the accused as if he's innocent. That's our system, and sometimes it's tough to swallow, but we don't apply it selectively. Again, that's exactly why Lady Justice has the blindfold.
And if the democrats want to establish that an accusation is enough to establish guilt, what do they suspect will happen when they are in the majority, and they want to fill SCOTUS seats? Are they this short-sighted? |
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10-02-2018, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
He is a comedian and we all know he never touched her (and that is why you added the last part).
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no we don't....I don't think many women found it humorous |
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10-02-2018, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
no we don't....I don't think many women found it humorous
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That photo was debunked as you can clearly see the shadow.
So now we are making people resign bc of jokes that are not funny? |
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10-02-2018, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
That photo was debunked as you can clearly see the shadow.
So now we are making people resign bc of jokes that are not funny?
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I didn't say he should resign because he's not funny. I just said he's not funny.
This photo was shown to be a fake?
If all there were, were accusations, especially if they were from conservative women, then he should not have had to resign. Fair enough? Any hypocrisy there on my part? Any at all? |
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10-02-2018, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
you think the Dems are the party that is morally bankrupt. |
noone said the republicans are pure...but the democrats are consistently taking gold, silver and bronze in every event for the morally bankrupt |
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10-02-2018, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
He is a comedian and we all know he never touched her (and that is why you added the last part).
So the Dems. made a man quit even though you just admitted he never touched her and yet the Repubs. elected someone who has multiple sex accusations against him (and let's not forget Roy Moore where 550,000 people voted for a pervert/pedophile) and you think the Dems are the party that is morally bankrupt. |
"He is a comedian "
Ha ha ha, a 60 year-old man pretending to grope a sleeping soldier, oh please stop my stomach hurts from laughing so hard.
Has Franken denied that he did anything wrong? I thought he apologized. If he confessed, well that's pretty good evidence he acted stupidly.
Here's the photo. If this is genuine and not doctored, it looks like he's touching her in a way I wouldn't let him touch my wife. Is this not the photo?
"you think the Dems are the party that is morally bankrupt"
I think politicians in general, on both sides, are corrupt. If you want to talk about degree, the democrats are worse, every day and twice on Sunday. |
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10-02-2018, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"He is a comedian "
Ha ha ha, a 60 year-old man pretending to grope a sleeping soldier, oh please stop my stomach hurts from laughing so hard. not a soldier Leean Tweedan or something like that. On the trip w/him. Staunch conservative who wasn't upset w/the picture until he bc a Senator. On a comedy tour to visit the soldiers together.
Has Franken denied that he did anything wrong? Yes, in fact he did. Admitted to nothing. I thought he apologized. If he confessed, well that's pretty good evidence he acted stupidly.Never confessed - I believe he denied.
Here's the photo. If this is genuine and not doctored, it looks like he's touching her in a way I wouldn't let him touch my wife. Is this not the photo?It is but everyone says you can see shadows below the hands.
"you think the Dems are the party that is morally bankrupt"
I think politicians in general, on both sides, are corrupt. If you want to talk about degree, the democrats are worse, every day and twice on Sunday.
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So we disagree on that statement. I see some/(many but not all) Republicans and having bc morally bankrupt. Falling in lockstep w/Trump - environment, fiscal policies, etc. Allow his lies and scummy deeds to go unchecked (more news today about that Trump and Eric talked about Stormy D. even thought he repeatedly said he didn't). They have risen to a level of anger and pettiness previously not seen. You can see it here.
So the Repubs are corrupt but the Dems are some degree more corrupt yet that "degree" causes you to hate the Dems. the way you do - wow. |
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10-02-2018, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
So we disagree on that statement. I see some/(many but not all) Republicans and having bc morally bankrupt. Falling in lockstep w/Trump - environment, fiscal policies, etc. Allow his lies and scummy deeds to go unchecked (more news today about that Trump and Eric talked about Stormy D. even thought he repeatedly said he didn't). They have risen to a level of anger and pettiness previously not seen. You can see it here.
So the Repubs are corrupt but the Dems are some degree more corrupt yet that "degree" causes you to hate the Dems. the way you do - wow.
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"So the Repubs are corrupt "
Some, sadly yes. There are tens of millions of, any group that size has bad apples.
"the Dems are some degree more corrupt"
A lot more.
"that "degree" causes you to hate the Dems"
I dislike their policies, and especially dislike their methods. I see Republicans trying to talk about issues, and the democrat response is, way too often, an accusation of hate. I hate the identity politics. I keep hearing liberals talking about the Kavanaugh case in terms of race. Everyone involved is white, why is it a racial issue? |
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10-02-2018, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I keep hearing liberals talking about the Kavanaugh case in terms of race. Everyone involved is white, why is it a racial issue?
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I Didn't think people where talking about it in terms of race. |
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10-02-2018, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
What was the evidence with Franken?
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photograph for starters |
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10-02-2018, 10:42 AM
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photograph for starters
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of what? |
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