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10-01-2018, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
I’m disappointed, I was hoping for the explanation as to why the supposed ploy by the evil dems to delay, delay and delay involved such a late leak of the letter.
If Ford's letter was vetted when it was received, the matter, if it was going to involve the FBI, could have been resolved already. If an investigation proved Kavanaugh unfit, Kavanaugh's nomination could have been withdrawn, and a new nomination could have been made and the Senate's deliberations could have been done before the midterm elections. Time is possibly too short for that to happen now, especially if the Dems demand a further expansion of the FBI investigation. If the Dems win the Senate, then they can stop any further nominations. That's one explanation.
All you did was tell me what I already knew, that this poor women’s trust was betrayed by some (not a well coordinated dem-Clinton conspiracy) person who felt getting that information out there was more important.
One staffer likely thinking that was needed to prevent someone accused of attempted rape being confirmed to the highest post in our legal system is probably what happened. So tell me, you buying into his rant claiming that conspiracy is real and that happened, because you seemed to believe so and if so I’d refer you back to me previous post.
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If that staffer was really motivated by some idea of justice, not politics, why would he/she/it believe it was right to expose, against the writer's wishes, a confused, uncorroborated statement which could destroy lives, including the accuser's as well as the judge's and his family?
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10-01-2018, 08:38 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by detbuch
If that staffer was really motivated by some idea of justice, not politics, why would he/she/it believe it was right to expose, against the writer's wishes, a confused, uncorroborated statement which could destroy lives, including the accuser's as well as the judge's and his family?
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See now there you go, telling me what I know, what you know and not answering either of my questions. I know the difference between right and wrong, I've already agreed the release against her will was wrong; you can give that a rest now.
You seemed to be agreeing with K's rant and the GOP position that this entire process was a staged and calculated ploy by the Dem's and if we can believe it Clinton's revenge. I see it as maybe a simple case of one staffer leaking a letter that they probably in hindsight, shouldn't have even had access to, yet that water is over the dam and down river.
So I wanted clarification from you on why you think this was all a calculated ploy to leak a letter last minute, in order to stall the confirmation and affect the mid terms. I made the case, that if that's a plan, it's not a very well thought out one; an early release and early detailed FBI probe would have been far more effective at doing just that.
Then in my last post and since the cat is out of the bag, with an FBI investigation underway; I asked if they presented evidence to support her claim, would that change your opinion of the man or his right I guess to win confirmation.
I guess I'm looking to see if that were to happen, if him lying about the incident would sway your vote, or do you feel is it just a stupid 17 year old getting too liquored up and acting inappropriate and we should move on.
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10-01-2018, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
do you feel is it just a stupid 17 year old getting too liquored up and acting inappropriate and we should move on.
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there is no evidence that this even/ever happened
imagine how the dems would treat Dr Ford if she was accusing a democrat nominee or politician....I wonder if they'd find her "credible".....I suspect she'd be the one getting the anal exam and every aspect of her life overturned...yet we know almost nothing about the accuser except we believe her whoever she is
left is in full smear mode....should be a fun week 
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10-02-2018, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
there is no evidence that this even/ever happened
imagine how the dems would treat Dr Ford if she was accusing a democrat nominee or politician....I wonder if they'd find her "credible".....I suspect she'd be the one getting the anal exam and every aspect of her life overturned...yet we know almost nothing about the accuser except we believe her whoever she is
left is in full smear mode....should be a fun week 
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Franken, Kihuen, Esty, Conyers
But then you have Trump
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10-02-2018, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Franken, Kihuen, Esty, Conyers
But then you have Trump
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lot's of actual evidence in all of those....adults, in office behaving badly....
Nancy Pelosi regarding Conyers...
“Just because someone is accused — was it one accusation? Was it two?
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10-02-2018, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
lot's of actual evidence in all of those....adults, in office behaving badly....
Nancy Pelosi regarding Conyers...
“Just because someone is accused — was it one accusation? Was it two?
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Are they still in office?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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10-02-2018, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
lot's of actual evidence in all of those....adults, in office behaving badly....
Nancy Pelosi regarding Conyers...
“Just because someone is accused — was it one accusation? Was it two?
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What was the evidence with Franken?
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10-02-2018, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
What was the evidence with Franken?
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well there was a photo of him groping, or at the very least pretending to fondle, a sleeping soldier, like a pervert.
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10-02-2018, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
What was the evidence with Franken?
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photograph for starters
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