Trump's 'dirty war' on media

[Jim in CT]

here, a columnist for the new york times was on msnbc, and she said that Trump would like to round up people and slaughter them.

go ahead spence, tell me i’m taking it out of context, that what she really meant to say was, something else, something brilliant and harmonious.

i’m not sure it’s a big stretch to say this deranged, vindictive bitch is the enemy of the people. because if what she said had a speck of truth to it, we’d be justified in taking up arms against Trump. at a minimum , she doesn’t deserve the significant protections we give the press. these people have large audiences and a lot of influence, they have a responsibility to use it wisely. they aren’t coming close to living up to that responsibility. the foundation of journalism needs to be the truth, and if they want to bash trump, there’s plenty of truthful ways to do that. but that’s not good enough for these maniacs.

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/ny...mp-round-kill/
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

here, a columnist for the new york times was on msnbc, and she said that Trump would like to round up people and slaughter them.

go ahead spence, tell me i’m taking it out of context, that what she really meant to say was, something else, something brilliant and harmonious.

i’m not sure it’s a big stretch to say this deranged, vindictive bitch is the enemy of the people. because if what she said had a speck of truth to it, we’d be justified in taking up arms against Trump. at a minimum , she doesn’t deserve the significant protections we give the press. these people have large audiences and a lot of influence, they have a responsibility to use it wisely. they aren’t coming close to living up to that responsibility. the foundation of journalism needs to be the truth, and if they want to bash trump, there’s plenty of truthful ways to do that. but that’s not good enough for these maniacs.

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/ny...mp-round-kill/
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Now I see where your style of prose comes from.
Kinda the pot calling the kettle black if you look at Crowder and that NYT reporter

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Now I see where your style of prose comes from.
Kinda the pot calling the kettle black if you look at Crowder and that NYT reporter

forget about me for a second. is this new york times reporter being grossly irresponsible, or not? how far off is trump when he calls her the enemy of the american people? you can’t answer that by saying that i’m a jerk as well. this thread was started to bash trump because he attacks the press. i’m not saying trump has handled this ( or anything really) with class, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a point.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Now I see where your style of prose comes from.
Kinda the pot calling the kettle black if you look at Crowder and that NYT reporter

So you're saying that Crowder and the NYT reporter are alike. Style aside, does that also mean that they are both right or that both are wrong. It doesn't make sense that both can be right since their opinions are diametrically opposed. If both are wrong, then Jim is right about the NYT reporter.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

here, a columnist for the new york times was on msnbc, and she said that Trump would like to round up people and slaughter them.

go ahead spence, tell me i’m taking it out of context, that what she really meant to say was, something else, something brilliant and harmonious.

I think she was drawing on Trump's wannabe tyrant-ism and the abhorrent treatment refugees and migrants have suffered as Trump is rounded them up en mass and broken families with little concern that they are human beings. Clumsy and full of hyperbole but as evidence the press is the enemy doesn't really hold up...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

I think she was drawing on Trump's wannabe tyrant-ism and the abhorrent treatment refugees and migrants have suffered as Trump is rounded them up en mass and broken families with little concern that they are human beings. Clumsy and full of hyperbole but as evidence the press is the enemy doesn't really hold up...

talk about hyperbole....geez

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

treatment refugees and migrants have suffered as Trump is rounded them up en mass and broken families with little concern that they are human beings.

this is a good example....

ICE detained a man while he was driving his pregnant wife to the hospital. He was taken when they stopped for gas.

"My husband needs to be here," Maria del Carmen Venegas said. "He had to wait for his son for so long, and someone just took him away."

Joel Arrona Lara, 36, was detained at a gas station in San Bernardino, California, while he and his wife were on their way to the hospital for her cesarean section. He reportedly had been living in the U.S. illegally for 12 years.

Mr. Arrona-Lara was brought to ICE’s attention due to an outstanding warrant for his arrest in Mexico on homicide charges.

this prompted democrats everywhere to call for the abolition of ICE

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

this is a good example....

ICE detained a man while he was driving his pregnant wife to the hospital. He was taken when they stopped for gas.

"My husband needs to be here," Maria del Carmen Venegas said. "He had to wait for his son for so long, and someone just took him away."

Joel Arrona Lara, 36, was detained at a gas station in San Bernardino, California, while he and his wife were on their way to the hospital for her cesarean section. He reportedly had been living in the U.S. illegally for 12 years.

Mr. Arrona-Lara was brought to ICE’s attention due to an outstanding warrant for his arrest in Mexico on homicide charges.

this prompted democrats everywhere to call for the abolition of ICE

Here is another example
KISSIMMEE, Fla. — The wife of an Iraq War veteran wiped away tears and held her young daughters as she said goodbye to her family at Orlando International Airport on Friday morning — not knowing the next time they would all be together.

Alejandra Juarez, who entered the United States illegally from Mexico more than 20 years ago, had pleaded publicly for President Donald Trump to stop her deportation. But a letter delivered to the White House this week by members of Congress wasn't enough to keep her with her husband, a naturalized American citizen, and their two American-born daughters.
There is an immigration policy for members of the military and their families called “parole in place” to “recognize the important sacrifices made by U.S. Armed forces members, veterans, enlistees, and their families." The Citizen and Immigration Services website says they provide “discretionary options such as parole in place or deferred action on a case-by-case basis.”

The Juarezes received a call Tuesday from their attorney saying ICE agreed to review her most recent “parole in place” application. But they have rejected her previous three applications, according to Stars and Stripes.

“I love this country. This country has given me great things because we have worked hard. But the America we are living in now is getting full of hate,” Juarez said.

She checked in regularly with immigration authorities during former President Barack Obama’s administration, and says she was always told she is not a criminal and has nothing to worry about.

Now, under Trump’s immigration policy, few exceptions are made for unauthorized immigrants — even in cases when a crime has not been committed.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Here is another example

Alejandra Juarez, who entered the United States illegally from Mexico more than 20 years ago,

She checked in regularly with immigration authorities during former President Barack Obama’s administration, and says she was always told she is not a criminal and has nothing to worry about.



no doubt...

Pete, what makes her more deserving than any other woman on either side of the border who either wants to come her or is already here illegally? Shouldn't they have the opportunity to come here illegally/stay here illegally...marry someone in the service(or not) or have a couple of kids on US soil? Laws for everyone don't work when everyone wants special treatment all of the time

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

Alejandra Juarez, who entered the United States illegally from Mexico more than 20 years ago,

She checked in regularly with immigration authorities during former President Barack Obama’s administration, and says she was always told she is not a criminal and has nothing to worry about.



no doubt...

Pete, what makes her more deserving than any other woman on either side of the border who either wants to come her or is already here illegally? Shouldn't they have the opportunity to come here illegally/stay here illegally...marry someone in the service(or not) or have a couple of kids on US soil? Laws for everyone don't work when everyone wants special treatment all of the time

You cited a case where ICE picked someone up who was wanted on homicide charges as a Good example, perhaps of people who should not be treated as human beings.
In this case it is the wife of someone who unlike Baby Donnie Bonespurs served his chosen country, has committed no crime other than immigrating illegally, has been a productive member of our society.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You cited a case where ICE picked someone up who was wanted on homicide charges as a Good example,

perhaps of people who should not be treated as human beings.these were Spence's stupid words..


In this case it is the wife of someone who unlike Baby Donnie Bonespurs served his chosen country, has committed no crime other than immigrating illegally, has been a productive member of our society.

so?....that makes her better than any of the thousands-millions of women either currently here illegally or wanting to come here illegally?

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

Pete, what makes her more deserving than any other woman on either side of the border who either wants to come her or is already here illegally? Shouldn't they have the opportunity to come here illegally/stay here illegally...marry someone in the service(or not) or have a couple of kids on US soil? Laws for everyone don't work when everyone wants special treatment all of the time

How about for the well being of their children who are Americans? How about respect for the service of her husband?

Immigration law has never been followed to the extreme because it's impractical and at times immoral.

How about because not deporting her makes the country stronger?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

How about because not deporting her makes the country stronger?

good grief....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I think she was drawing on Trump's wannabe tyrant-ism and the abhorrent treatment refugees and migrants have suffered as Trump is rounded them up en mass and broken families with little concern that they are human beings. Clumsy and full of hyperbole but as evidence the press is the enemy doesn't really hold up...

didn’t obama also break up families and put kids in cages?

what you think, is becoming less and less connected with reality.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

didn’t obama also break up families and put kids in cages?

what you think, is becoming less and less connected with reality.
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Jim, we've covered this about 5 times now...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim, we've covered this about 5 times now...

and what you said, is that obama did the same thing, but not quite as often. how big of a difference is that. the photo of kids in a cage that got everyone foaming at the mouth, was taken during the obama years. why let facts getnin the way if a good commie temper tantrum.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and what you said, is that obama did the same thing, but not quite as often. how big of a difference is that. the photo of kids in a cage that got everyone foaming at the mouth, was taken during the obama years. why let facts getnin the way if a good commie temper tantrum.
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This administrations policy was to Separate as a deterrent and that is pretty abhorrent to most Americans
Sessions said, “If people don’t want to be separated from their children, they should not bring them with them. We’ve got to get this message out.”
Commie no longer works for Trumplicans unless you’re just self identifying
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and what you said, is that obama did the same thing, but not quite as often. how big of a difference is that. the photo of kids in a cage that got everyone foaming at the mouth, was taken during the obama years. why let facts getnin the way if a good commie temper tantrum.
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I never said Obama did the same thing, their policies are quite different. Do some homework Jim.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I never said Obama did the same thing, their policies are quite different. Do some homework Jim.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...backfires.html

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

didn’t obama also break up families and put kids in cages?


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yeah but Trump eats them for breakfast