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Old 07-30-2018, 08:08 PM   #1
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When did I say she was correct in her approach to healthcare and education what I do think is she will move public opinion

Yes, the peaceful authoritarian way is to move public opinion. That is the purpose of propaganda. Or lies. Or giving goodies to get votes.

Yes, there is a large portion of modern folks who are very susceptible of having their opinion moved in the direction of some socialist form of fairy dust that will bestow the magic food, clothing, shelter, education, and lots of time to enjoy life, basically paid for and provided by "society."


Just like the reporter who wrote the article Jim cited and said there but for the grace of God go I other people will say that’s a good idea how can we make that happen
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Cortez seems to think she knows the way. But people have been trying unsuccessfully to make that happen, including Cortez's way, for eons. Capitalism is the closest way we have come to achieve it. Cortez's way is contradicted by the article you posted by George Will. Why did you post Will's Article?
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Old 07-30-2018, 09:03 PM   #2
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Cortez seems to think she knows the way. But people have been trying unsuccessfully to make that happen, including Cortez's way, for eons. Capitalism is the closest way we have come to achieve it. Cortez's way is contradicted by the article you posted by George Will. Why did you post Will's Article?
We successfully fund primary and secondary education publicly and our society benefits from that, is it impossible to do more? Now I also don’t believe that further education is what everyone needs
George Will is a interesting writer. I thought his article drawing parallels between Cortez and Trump was interesting and important.
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Old 07-30-2018, 09:31 PM   #3
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We successfully fund primary and secondary education publicly and our society benefits from that,

The vast bulk of funding for primary and secondary education is done by the states. As it should constitutionally be. There is also a very large amount of private funding for private schools. As it constitutionally should be. Our society benefits from both.

It is not a constitutional power for the federal government to intrude on state and private education. It is debatable whether society benefits or is harmed by that. Certainly, it needlessly adds to the national debt and enlarges Federal power. And it imposes dictatorial regulations on public education (and private as well) that weakens the states position as that pool of competitive ways of doing things which, in the long run, could create better results.


George Will is a interesting writer. I thought his article drawing parallels between Cortez and Trump was interesting and important.
Since you do not approve of Trump, I wouldn't think you'd want to draw parallels of Cortez to Trump unless you want to discredit her. Wouldn't the differences be what is important--if what Cortez says is supposed to "expand our horizon."


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Politics in reality is not a straight line, trying to make it that has put us in the place we are today
What "line" are you talking about? Would a crooked line make it better? Another one of your many cryptic statements. Please verify.

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Old 07-31-2018, 12:20 AM   #4
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Since you do not approve of Trump, I wouldn't think you'd want to draw parallels of Cortez to Trump unless you want to discredit her. Wouldn't the differences be what is important--if what Cortez says is supposed to "expand our horizon."



Politics in reality is not a straight line, trying to make it that has put us in the place we are todayPolitics in reality is not a straight line, trying to make it that has put us in the place we are today
What "line" are you talking about? Would a crooked line make it better? Another one of your many cryptic statements. Please verify.[/QUOTE]
Try putting party in front of line

And politics is rarely a pure party line
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Old 07-31-2018, 04:50 AM   #5
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Try putting party in front of line

And politics is rarely a pure party line. Trying to make it that has put us in the place we are today.

If it is RARELY a pure party line, then how is "trying to make it that put us in the place we are today"? What "place" are we in today? Trump, obviously, does not follow a pure party line. The Repubs are split among factions. As well are the Dems, maybe even more so. Is there such a thing as a pure party line?
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