GDP growth for the second quarter was +4.1%, second highest in 15 years

[Sea Dangles]

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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by zimmy

There are 9 billion tons of plastic going in the ocean each year. It is calculated that there are 8 billion straws on the world's shorelines. They aren't recyclable, they aren't necessary, there are alternatives. The ones you use might end up in the trash, but there are 500 million used per day in this country and lots of those don't get in the trash and lots that do still end up in water ways. It is a simple fix to a major problem.Much easier than fixing the budget. I do trash them but I also haven't used one unless it was put in my cup without asking me in probably 20 years. I worry more about the affects of plastic on marine ecosystems than I do about someone's straw for their cup of Sprite.
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US Plastic Straws - a terrible terrible gross mismanagement of the world ecosystem.



Linky: http://www.northeastern.edu/rugglesm...e-should-know/

Now it really is a problem, but a small one. It is TERRIBLY effective as fuel for the OutrageMachine, for both sides.

Next you won't be able to meltdown your straws in order to print an AR15 with a highcapacity semiautoclip.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

US Plastic Straws - a terrible terrible gross mismanagement of the world ecosystem.



Linky: http://www.northeastern.edu/rugglesm...e-should-know/

Now it really is a problem, but a small one. It is TERRIBLY effective as fuel for the OutrageMachine, for both sides.

Next you won't be able to meltdown your straws in order to print an AR15 with a highcapacity semiautoclip.

How much of China's mismanaged plastic originated in other nations?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

How much of China's mismanaged plastic originated in other nations?

So other nations have to be penalized for China's mismanagement? I don't think we want to go down that road.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by detbuch

So other nations have to be penalized for China's mismanagement? I don't think we want to go down that road.

I read that as we are in the top 20 of plastic pollution. There are 195 countries so we are in the top 10% of contributors. Because china is worse we should ignore it? Seems like a pretty low standard to set. Outrage machine? The outraged seem to be all the children crying in the street over the fact that they won't get a straw at McDonald's. Never mind, I haven't seen that. Without this forum, I wouldn't have known anyone would be outraged.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by zimmy

I read that as we are in the top 20 of plastic pollution. There are 195 countries so we are in the top 10% of contributors. Because china is worse we should ignore it? Seems like a pretty low standard to set. Outrage machine? The outraged seem to be all the children crying in the street over the fact that they won't get a straw at McDonald's. Never mind, I haven't seen that. Without this forum, I wouldn't have known anyone would be outraged.
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I guess some just can't comprehend that it isn't really about the straws, its about the Ban.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I guess some just can't comprehend that it isn't really about the straws, its about the Ban.

I know that is what it is about for some of you. Poor personal freedom infringed now if you go to Seattle they won't stick a plastic straw in your soda without asking like they did last year. What is this world coming to?
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