more nothing burgers

[zimmy]

Way too many generalizations in that to even bother with. You wanna go down the road of the Catholic priests and make generalizations? There are problems with every group that involves humans. When you say it goes to the core of being Muslim, that reflects on you, not Islam.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Way too many generalizations in that to even bother with. You wanna go down the road of the Catholic priests and make generalizations?
They were not generalizations. They were specific questions.

There are problems with every group that involves humans.

That is a generalization.

When you say it goes to the core of being Muslim, that reflects on you, not Islam.

It reflects my study of Islam. As it does the opinion of MANY scholars of that theocratic system. It reflects the opinion of converts and atheists who left that system. It reflects the understanding of those Muslims who want to reform their theocracy--it has not yet been reformed.

And it was about specific problems arising from that theocratic, cultural system in England and Europe. Actual problems that I did not invent. And the divide in Europe, over its Muslim immigration problem is large and a potential break-up of the EU. And a major reason the Brits voted for Brexit.

It was not about Muslims in the U.S.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

It was not about Muslims in the U.S.

An important distinction, Muslims here are doing a good job of assimilating. Not in Europe, where they want to set up places in their new countries, that look and operate like their old countries. That's a problem.

Multi-ethnicity within a nation, is awesome. Multiculturalism, isn't. Someone said "immigration without assimilation, is an invasion". That's not that far off.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

An important distinction, Muslims here are doing a good job of assimilating. Not in Europe, where they want to set up places in their new countries, that look and operate like their old countries. That's a problem.

Multi-ethnicity within a nation, is awesome. Multiculturalism, isn't. Someone said "immigration without assimilation, is an invasion". That's not that far off.

Many who claim they (immigrants ) dont Assimilate .. Feel Multi-ethnicity within a nation, is not awesome. Multiculturalism, is even worse. And any immigration is an invasion..

But what is Assimilation to theses people? Who don't understand the term or how it even works or what it looks like ....

what does Assimilation look like how is measured what level is considered acceptable??

How does an Immigrant Assimilate thats acceptable in America Today ??

The current climate: I feel the answer is anywhere . But here!

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Many who claim they (immigrants ) dont Assimilate .. Feel Multi-ethnicity within a nation, is not awesome. Multiculturalism, is even worse. And any immigration is an invasion..

But what is Assimilation to theses people? Who don't understand the term or how it even works or what it looks like ....

what does Assimilation look like how is measured what level is considered acceptable??

How does an Immigrant Assimilate thats acceptable in America Today ??

The current climate: I feel the answer is anywhere . But here!

"And any immigration is an invasion"

Who is saying that legal immigration, done by people willing to assimilate, is bad? Who?

"what does Assimilation look like how is measured what level is considered acceptable?? "

FFS, look it up in the dictionary.

As far as Muslims go, it means letting girls go to school instead of enslaving them, not forcing them to dress like ninjas if they don't want to, and accepting duly constituted civil laws even when they conflict with your religion. Embracing the culture of your new country, instead of wanting to incinerate everyone who embraces that culture, would also be a good start.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Way too many generalizations in that to even bother with. You wanna go down the road of the Catholic priests and make generalizations? There are problems with every group that involves humans. When you say it goes to the core of being Muslim, that reflects on you, not Islam.

the homosexual predators who became priests, did not seduce boys in the name of catholicism, they were not motivated to do so, by catholicism. as they fondled young boys, they didn’t cry out that jesus is great.

there is one religion, one, that cultivates large numbers of people willing to commit atrocities in the name of that religion. there is a reason why that is. you can ignore that if you want, but if your beliefs require you to ignore facts and empirical evidence, it might be time to get some new beliefs.
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[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the homosexual predators who became priests, did not seduce boys in the name of catholicism, they were not motivated to do so, by catholicism. as they fondled young boys, they didn’t cry out that jesus is great.


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No, they used the trust created by the church as a tool to commit those acts. The tremendous power of the leadership of the church from parish to Rome, given by the church and parishioners, created a safe haven for those criminals to assault thousands of children. Muslim extremists distort Islam for their purposes. Obviously there is a connection between Islam and terrorism that can't be ignored. You are right that Muslims wanting to create countries in countries is a problem. It is interesting you say Muslims here are doing a good job assimilating since the Republican party platform is that we need to keep them out because they don't assimilate.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by zimmy

the Republican party platform is that we need to keep them out because they don't assimilate.

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huh??

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

huh??

This is from a Fox news interview about a Muslim ban. Let me know if you need more clarification

On Fox News, Trump said this of Muslims who immigrate to the United States: "Assimilation has been very hard. It's almost — I won't say nonexistent, but it gets to be pretty close. And I'm talking about second and third generation. They come — they don't — for some reason, there's no real assimilation."
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by zimmy

This is from a Fox news interview about a Muslim ban. Let me know if you need more clarification

On Fox News, Trump said this of Muslims who immigrate to the United States: "Assimilation has been very hard. It's almost — I won't say nonexistent, but it gets to be pretty close. And I'm talking about second and third generation. They come — they don't — for some reason, there's no real assimilation."
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nothing on FOX news is true...

and how is anything trump says the "republican party platform"? remember...the democrats(and the russians) elected him

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

nothing on FOX news is true...

and how is anything trump says the "republican party platform"? remember...the democrats(and the russians) elected him

He is the Republican party. The party of Reagan died.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c46588...ration-remarks