NATO

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Others might have a different viewpoint of war
In WW2 of the more than 60 million people who died in the war
20 million russians died
5 million germans died
less than half a million Americans died

Absolutely, war is hell and should be avoided as much as absolutely possible. There has also not been a global, industrial scale hot war in 70+ years.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Absolutely, war is hell and should be avoided as much as absolutely possible. There has also not been a global, industrial scale hot war in 70+ years.

"The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war."

Douglas MacArthur

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Absolutely, war is hell and should be avoided as much as absolutely possible. There has also not been a global, industrial scale hot war in 70+ years.

As costly as war back then was in loss of life, can you imagine what the loss would be to life and the ecosystem if someone get's their finger on a nuclear button. One would think that after all the global conflicts resulting in so much loss of life, we would find a way to globally play nicely in the sandbox called earth. If we don't generations from now are going to be in deep crap and paying for our mishandling of their world.

[DZ]

I've worked at an institute of higher military learning for many years. The topic of NATO burden sharing is not a new one. Just about every president has addressed it.

Read this from 2014 and some of you may be surprised:

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...-t-do-it-alone

Even militarization of space (Space Force) has been/is a serious topic of future concern.

Like most issues they are complex and we cannot oversimplify them.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by DZ

I've worked at an institute of higher military learning for many years. The topic of NATO burden sharing is not a new one. Just about every president has addressed it.

Read this from 2014 and some of you may be surprised:

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...-t-do-it-alone

Even militarization of space (Space Force) has been/is a serious topic of future concern.

Like most issues they are complex and we cannot oversimplify them.

yes many past POTUS have addressed this issue and we cannot oversimplify them but someone Forgot to tell Trump he huffed and puffed and still walked away with 2% by 2024 from Nato

but for his fan base at home he showed them who's large and in charge and how an alpha male gets things done MAGA .. facts details dont matter its all about the show ... And Trump is Fantastic at it...
I'll give him that