Trump to meet with Putin

[Pete F.]

In less than 2 weeks the President will meet with Vladimir Putin.
There was an interesting interview on NPR with a former ambassador the other day.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/03/62562...mit-with-putin
His insight into Putin is interesting, regardless of whether you like his view of Trump.

[spence]

I'm sure we'll get another round of "I asked him if Russia meddled in the election and Putin said they didn't so what do you want me to do?"

Considering Trump's remarks on Crimea and NATO I'm not sure what Trump is looking for from Putin other than keeping the pee tape locked up.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

In less than 2 weeks the President will meet with Vladimir Putin.
There was an interesting interview on NPR with a former ambassador the other day.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/03/62562...mit-with-putin
His insight into Putin is interesting, regardless of whether you like his view of Trump.

Should be quite an event, like a political version of a WWF championship bout--the Nazi vs. the Commie! The Gestapo vs. the KGB! Doesn't look good for the Nazi, considering past history. But maybe the Nazis learned something, and know what to look for this time. A new century rematch!

[JohnR]

I do not see how this ends well.

Oh yeh

[detbuch]

Maybe Trump won't be a pushover for Putin. Here's a conversation over a book by Conrad Black called "A President Like No Other.":

[wdmso]

I dont have an issue with 2 super powers talking the issue is will we know what they Talked about

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I dont have an issue with 2 super powers talking the issue is will we know what they Talked about

Agreed.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I dont have an issue with 2 super powers talking the issue is will we know what they Talked about

I don't either but have you ever seen the video of all of the Republicans and Fox News folks ridiculing Obama for saying he would meet with North Korean leader without conditions. 180 degree turn from recent and shows the hypocrisy of the right.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I dont have an issue with 2 super powers talking the issue is will we know what they Talked about

Does the media typically record such meetings?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Does the media typically record such meetings?
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like most meeting they usually put out the agenda and talking points prior to the meeting ,, unless they say executive privilege .. then who knows

as of today Trump “I’ll talk to [Putin] about everything,” Trump said on Friday

Trump on Friday implied the U.S. could discuss recognizing Russia’s annexation of Crimea during the summit in Helsinki, thats odd

[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Does the media typically record such meetings?
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The media doesn’t but there should be an official government record of the meeting even if its not immediately made public. I’d think he should also have a translator.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by spence

The media doesn’t but there should be an official government record of the meeting even if its not immediately made public. I’d think he should also have a translator.
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That is concerning about this one.
Not even a stenographer to record the meeting for US records...

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

The media doesn’t but there should be an official government record of the meeting even if its not immediately made public. I’d think he should also have a translator.
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Without a translator there could be a communication glitch.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Maybe Trump won't be a pushover for Putin. Here's a conversation over a book by Conrad Black called "A President Like No Other.":

Considering Trump seems to be more frequently on the side of Russia than the West I'm not sure how a strong position -- even if he was capable -- benefits America.

[Got Stripers]

A wanna be king meeting with a real life dictator, what could possibly go wrong?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

A wanna be king meeting with a real life dictator, what could possibly go wrong?

And Trump is supposed to be polite, presidential, when ugly, slanderous depictions like this are constantly published by various fake news:

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...3&d=1530803162

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by detbuch

And Trump is supposed to be polite, presidential, when ugly, slanderous depictions like this are constantly published by various fake news:

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...3&d=1530803162

So when he takes a shot at Elizabeth Warren (she’s not the issue) and then makes fun of the me too movement, I suppose the media should ignore that? In a few short minutes in his latest rally he takes a shot at one of his peers (his MO), then fires a shot at our NATO allies, while saying Putin is just fine, all while making fun of the women rallying in the me too movement and the media and we should ignore that?

No shock that he just gave a Fox exec a post, even though he too was accused of inappropriate behavior; but DJT I’m sure is in good company with all those execs leaving or being let go for inappropriate behavior. Unfortunately we have nobody above him to give him his pink slip.

I guess you would agree with Trump when he says Kim is an honorable man, that he believes Putin never authorized any election meddling, that all Mexicans are rapists and gang members and the me too movement is a political ploy to get the women vote out to oust this clown. I’m also have no doubt you believe there is no global warming and the crazy weather the past few years is just a fluke.

I know you can’t stop posting to win every argument, but I’m not drinking the cool aid you and some others seem to be high on. Trump I’m certain pissed off many when cancelling all joint exercises with the South Koreans without getting anything other than what could be just another promise, can’t be any concerns with him meeting privately with Putin right🤮
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Considering Trump seems to be more frequently on the side of Russia than the West I'm not sure how a strong position -- even if he was capable -- benefits America.

Trump is on the side of America. And America is the most important country in the "West."

I don't know what you mean by being "on the side of."

And, probably because your sources are too limited, you may not have noticed that the "West" is having major squabbles with itself in Europe. Merkel is barely hanging on to power. Austria, Italy, and the Visegrad Four are opposing Brussels' demands on immigration. Brexit. Anti-immigration parties on the rise in the Nordic countries. And the arguments are more often heated, threatening, rather than merely civil differences of opinion.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Trump is on the side of America. And America is the most important country in the "West."

I think he's on the side of Trump and has little respect or even understanding of the values that make America great. Everything with Trump is a winner or loser transaction in the moment. He shows no capacity for systems thinking let alone a sense of time.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I think he's on the side of Trump and has little respect or even understanding of the values that make America great. Everything with Trump is a winner or loser transaction in the moment. He shows no capacity for systems thinking let alone a sense of time.

I thing you're wrong on all points.

[PaulS]

He'll prob. come back and say he and Putin discussed nukes and Europe will now be nuclear free. His fan boys will celebrate this great achievement.

[spence]

Originally Posted by PaulS

He'll prob. come back and say he and Putin discussed nukes and Europe will now be nuclear free. His fan boys will celebrate this great achievement.

Get rid of the nukes and Europe won't be a threat to anyone so they'll actually be safer. You probably don't know this but most nukes are just sitting around getting old and if they get bumped, just a little bump and they'll go off killing m-i-l-l-i-o-n-s of people. It's going to save a lot of money not having to maintain stockpiles either.

You have to have a pretty good brain to put all this together which is why nobody has thought of it until Trump.

[PaulS]

President Trump just praised Putin in his latest rally while mocking an ailing Bush and his points of light. I guess he wants a bigger government instead of volunteerism. Where's the Republican to stand up and say "sir have you no decency"?
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by PaulS

President Trump just praised Putin in his latest rally while mocking an ailing Bush and his points of light. I guess he wants a bigger government instead of volunteerism. Where's the Republican to stand up and say "sir have you no decency"?
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There are no real republicans left. Just fascists.
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[spence]

Anyone else notice the group of 8 House Republicans who met in Russia last week only to be summarily ridiculed by state media? Must have been a productive session. I hear they did go the the ballet.
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[Sea Dangles]

Well, I am sure these leaders value your opinion Jeff and will proceed accordingly.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Well, I am sure these leaders value your opinion Jeff and will proceed accordingly.
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That’s my understanding of protocol.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

in Reality the GOP calling most on the left socialist and communist is what got trump elected ... most supporters dont know what either mean and clearly dont know what a fascists looks like or what it means

Wayne, there is no strong moderate Dem wing anymore. There are Progressives to Socialists, and a few remaining moderates . The more extreme of these people want to pull the Constitution apart and they are gaining influence. Yes, ugly Republicans are a better alternative to that.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

For those who need a visual representation


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Classic

Originally Posted by spence

The media doesn’t but there should be an official government record of the meeting even if its not immediately made public. I’d think he should also have a translator.
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This (mark it down, I am agreeing with Spence)

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Wayne, there is no strong moderate Dem wing anymore. There are Progressives to Socialists, and a few remaining moderates . The more extreme of these people want to pull the Constitution apart and they are gaining influence. Yes, ugly Republicans are a better alternative to that.

I think the moderate dems are all still there, they just don't have a unified face to rally around.

Sure the "third party candidate" talk gets tired but I could absolutely see a massive GOP exodus forming a legit 3rd party that many dems would jump on to if the DNC can't put up a solid candidate.

To soon to tell though. Until the investigation fallout settles nobody knows what either party may look like.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Wayne, there is no strong moderate Dem wing anymore. There are Progressives to Socialists, and a few remaining moderates . The more extreme of these people want to pull the Constitution apart and they are gaining influence. Yes, ugly Republicans are a better alternative to that.

This is where I have issues with conservatives in general the dont see extremes on both side as a threat to the country .. they have an inability to see Gray every thing is cast as black or white win or lose us or them ... its encoded in their DNA their message

And they are willing to look the other way (trump) so they can get a Supreme court appointment . who will bring them back in time when America was Great reverse that pesky Roe V wade reverse equal protection of people from those not like them. roll back regulations even if we dont know what they do or why we have them its just sounds good.. hell they even bring back merry Christmas.. and god back in schools and all will be good again who are ugly Republicans are the ones who are going to do that ... ??? Devin Nunes and yet we have Trump being kinder to enemy's then he is to allies Patting himself on the back for North Korea with no tangible results and the GOP and supporters is in lock step .. just to get something for themselves