Trump calls press enemy of the people

[JohnR]

The media has a major bias problem and sometimes does go as far as fake - but usually just heavily biased. The problem for some - and certainly for Trump, is that the bias favors Dems/Socialists . It is easy for many to make the leap to Fake. And sometimes the news is fake.

Having said all that - this guy was on the radar and having issues specifically with this paper while the Pres was doing a crappy TV show.

He had been brought in by the cops and they let him go over fear of further inciting him. He had sued the paper, represented himself, and was tossed by the judges. The guy was a nut.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by JohnR

The media has a major bias problem and sometimes does go as far as fake - but usually just heavily biased. The problem for some - and certainly for Trump, is that the bias favors Dems/Socialists . It is easy for many to make the leap to Fake. And sometimes the news is fake.

Having said all that - this guy was on the radar and having issues specifically with this paper while the Pres was doing a crappy TV show.

He had been brought in by the cops and they let him go over fear of further inciting him. He had sued the paper, represented himself, and was tossed by the judges. The guy was a nut.

Essentially, bias is a form of fake. The history of The Press, here and worldwide, is a record full of agendas supported by bias, lies, and reporting ostensive "news" while not reporting news that contradicts their intended message. The lie of omission has always been present in The Press. The Press has always possessed a big quotient of fake.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Essentially, bias is a form of fake. The history of The Press, here and worldwide, is a record full of agendas supported by bias, lies, and reporting ostensive "news" while not reporting news that contradicts their intended message. The lie of omission has always been present in The Press. The Press has always possessed a big quotient of fake.

Which is part the problem, a free and independent people of a free and independent nation needs to have a press that is protected - and they are. However, the press needs to do it's part to be honest and truthful and worthy of that protection - not fall in lockstep behind an ideology or party. That is one of many factors in how we got Trump.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

The media has a major bias problem and sometimes does go as far as fake - but usually just heavily biased. The problem for some - and certainly for Trump, is that the bias favors Dems/Socialists . It is easy for many to make the leap to Fake. And sometimes the news is fake.

I've said this before but the whole media bias thing is largely a bunch of bunk. The major news outlets still adhere to journalistic standards pretty effectively. The problem is how people have developed an appetite (i.e. addiction) for instant breaking news news combined with massive amounts of cheap fake news/propaganda.

What is bias anyway? If you report on the president obviously lying, are you supposed to give his lie equal footing?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I've said this before but the whole media bias thing is largely a bunch of bunk. The major news outlets still adhere to journalistic standards pretty effectively. The problem is how people have developed an appetite (i.e. addiction) for instant breaking news news combined with massive amounts of cheap fake news/propaganda.

What is bias anyway? If you report on the president obviously lying, are you supposed to give his lie equal footing?

"the whole media bias thing is largely a bunch of bunk"

To you, and to others who think the whole world is exactly like you, sure. Just like a fish isn't aware that it's wet. To those who think clearly, the bias is obvious and glaring, and it's now helping our side.

Trump is Hitler, women are going to be outlawed!!!

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

To you, and to others who think the whole world is exactly like you, sure. Just like a fish isn't aware that it's wet. To those who think clearly, the bias is obvious and glaring, and it's now helping our side.

That's because you've been brainwashed to think the press is the enemy.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

That's because you've been brainwashed to think the press is the enemy.

When was the last time you got one right?

They are dishonest, politically motivated hacks. They are not the enemy, they are actually helping my side, they are making trump ( a despicable person) sympathetic. Not easy to do, but they are pulling it off. They are absolutely, irrefutably, helping my side. Neither they, nor you, are rational enough to see it.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

When was the last time you got one right?

They are dishonest, politically motivated hacks. They are not the enemy, they are actually helping my side, they are making trump ( a despicable person) sympathetic. Not easy to do, but they are pulling it off. They are absolutely, irrefutably, helping my side. Neither they, nor you, are rational enough to see it.
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thats funny coming from the guy who worn out "you can keep your doctor" To prove Obama was a liar liar and was horrible .. The media is helping my side making Trump look sympathetic No you are by being an enabler selling your soul to the devil for a few crumbs while turning a blind eye to everything else thats going on in the Trump Magic show ... and convincing yourself its the media's doing ... Sorry Trump has all ready put you in a state of hypnosis.. you just think you can control and put the genie back in the constitutional bottle if it needs to happen .. maybe but its doubtful

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

thats funny coming from the guy who worn out "you can keep your doctor" To prove Obama was a liar liar and was horrible .. The media is helping my side making Trump look sympathetic No you are by being an enabler selling your soul to the devil for a few crumbs while turning a blind eye to everything else thats going on in the Trump Magic show ... and convincing yourself its the media's doing ... Sorry Trump has all ready put you in a state of hypnosis.. you just think you can control and put the genie back in the constitutional bottle if it needs to happen .. maybe but its doubtful

"coming from the guy who worn out "you can keep your doctor" To prove Obama was a liar "

But I am 100% correct when I say that. When Obama was selling the ACA, he said you could keep you plan and doctor if you wanted. He was wrong. I don't believe he was lying, I think he believed it to be true, it just turned out he was wrong.

"No you are by being an enabler selling your soul to the devil for a few crumbs "

I am brutally critical of Trump when he deserves it, which is often. We have that in common. The difference between us, the only difference, is that I can also give him credit when he does something that helps us.

You define "a few crumbs" as Apple paying $38 billion in federal taxes, and adding 20,000 new jobs. That's one company. Only someone with literally zero understanding of how the private sector works, would call that crumbs.