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06-14-2018, 01:46 PM
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Manufacturing jobs have been a problem for years now. The issue is having workers with the right skills in the right places.
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06-14-2018, 01:59 PM
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Manufacturing jobs have been a problem for years now. The issue is having workers with the right skills in the right places.
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Point is that these are skilled jobs, not minimum wage jobs, and there is a shortage of workers for them.
So why aren't people getting the skills to get these jobs?
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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06-14-2018, 02:36 PM
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Point is that these are skilled jobs, not minimum wage jobs, and there is a shortage of workers for them.
So why aren't people getting the skills to get these jobs?
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thay maybe skilled but the vast majority of new jobs pay min wage and even with the schooling companys do not want to pay
wife's been a nurse same place for 20 years the company gave 3.00 hr raise to all the nurses except her and 3 others 20 plus year nurses when ask why they didn't get a raise they were told the raises were incentive to keep new nurses so now an inexperienced nurse makes 1dollar less 20 year experienced Nurse basic answer be happy you have a job
My Daughter Is a skilled worker makes a great hourly rate but only can piece together 23 hours a week all hours of the day
landscaper canceled spring clean up because he had no help.. why bust your ass for 12 bucks an hour for 40 hrs when you work inside at amazon in AC and make the same money.... yes the economy is great ... but with out wage growth its like running on a treadmill sure it will improve your health make you feel good ... but when you get off your in the same place as you started
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06-14-2018, 03:28 PM
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the vast majority of new jobs pay min wage
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the number of workers earning minimum wage is statistically very small compared to the total number of hourly workers and a good percentage of those are teenagers....not people trying to rent two bedroom apartments in Cambridge and San Francisco
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06-14-2018, 03:38 PM
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the number of workers earning minimum wage is statistically very small compared to the total number of hourly workers and a good percentage of those are teenagers....not people trying to rent two bedroom apartments in Cambridge and San Francisco
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That's extremely deceptive and only the case if you look at hourly workers earning exactly the federal minimum wage. Many states have higher minimums that wouldn't be counted that way. Also nearly half of hourly workers earn less than 15 dollars an hour.
Adults earning just above minimum wage are the bigger issue.
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06-14-2018, 03:49 PM
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That's extremely deceptive and only the case if you look at hourly workers earning exactly the federal minimum wage. Many states have higher minimums that wouldn't be counted that way. Also nearly half of hourly workers earn less than 15 dollars an hour.
Adults earning just above minimum wage are the bigger issue.
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it was actually pretty straight forward and common sense..
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06-15-2018, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Point is that these are skilled jobs, not minimum wage jobs, and there is a shortage of workers for them.
So why aren't people getting the skills to get these jobs?
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Now don't go around making logical points while Trump is the President, what you should be doing, is engaging in attacks.
There are a huge number of openings for skilled workers, these are not minimum wage jobs, these are jobs that won't let you buy a McMansion in Greenwich, but will let you buy a raised ranch in the Hartford suburbs.
"So why aren't people getting the skills to get these jobs"
Great question. Maybe getting those skills is something to consider, rather than amassing $200,000 in debt getting a useless liberal arts degree from a third tier private college.
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06-14-2018, 02:26 PM
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largest number of new job openings -- about 423,200 -- will be for home health aides, the report found. Guess what they get paid
Firms that save money from the tax cuts may simply be unable to find more workers to hire at the price they are willing to pay.
thats the key phrase willing to pay ....
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06-14-2018, 03:53 PM
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largest number of new job openings -- about 423,200 -- will be for home health aides, the report found. Guess what they get paid
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Funny, it says here that the average for a home health aide is $19 an hour and can be up to $30 an hour depending on location
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06-14-2018, 04:02 PM
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Funny, it says here that the average for a home health aide is $19 an hour and can be up to $30 an hour depending on location
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That's likely factoring in management or director level people running the programs. I'd wager most home health aids and hospice workers are under 15 an hour. I have a family member who relies on them and they can barely survive.
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06-14-2018, 05:39 PM
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That's likely factoring in management or director level people running the programs. I'd wager most home health aids and hospice workers are under 15 an hour. I have a family member who relies on them and they can barely survive.
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"the average for a home health aide is $19 an hour and can be up to $30"
they didn't say management or director they said "home health aid"
you do understand that workers generally start at one pay level and then get things called raises for performance and longevity
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06-15-2018, 05:44 AM
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"the average for a home health aide is $19 an hour and can be up to $30"
they didn't say management or director they said "home health aid"
you do understand that workers generally start at one pay level and then get things called raises for performance and longevity
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Home Health Aide Salary. Home Health Aides in the United States are largely women. The group as a whole has a nationwide average of $10.33 per hour for pay. the agency might get paid 19-30 bucks an hour who provide's the home health aid worker
were do you guys get you info from??
https://www.payscale.com/research/US...de/Hourly_Rate
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06-15-2018, 07:45 AM
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Home Health Aide Salary. Home Health Aides in the United States are largely women. The group as a whole has a nationwide average of $10.33 per hour for pay. the agency might get paid 19-30 bucks an hour who provide's the home health aid worker
were do you guys get you info from??
https://www.payscale.com/research/US...de/Hourly_Rate
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you left these quotes out
"Job satisfaction for Home Health Aides is high."
"Earning a certificate from a recognized program can be done in as little and one and one-half semesters at any community college. This certificate qualifies graduates to work in entry-level positions as aides. "
"Home Health Aides who transition into a Registered Nurse role may receive large pay increases as the latter position pays an average $56K per year. Certified Nurse Assistants or Licensed Practical Nurses are common next-step roles for Home Health Aides moving up in their careers"
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06-14-2018, 08:44 PM
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That's likely factoring in management or director level people running the programs. I'd wager most home health aids and hospice workers are under 15 an hour. I have a family member who relies on them and they can barely survive.
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Is that minimum wage?
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