Pelosi defends MS-13 from Trump

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Point????

That the whole Trump dialogue is intentionally muddy to serve a purpose of fear and division.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

That the whole Trump dialogue is intentionally muddy to serve a purpose of fear and division.

So to you, calling MS-13 animals., is fear-mongering and divisive. Have fun with that.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

That the whole Trump dialogue is intentionally muddy to serve a purpose of fear and division.

And when Obama said “republicans gotta stop just hatin’ all the time”, that was intended to bring us together? Same with Hilary’s deplorable comments?

Give it a rest. Give the hypocrisy a rest why dontcha??
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

And when Obama said “republicans gotta stop just hatin’ all the time”, that was intended to bring us together? Same with Hilary’s deplorable comments?

Give it a rest. Give the hypocrisy a rest why dontcha??
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What do you call when you compare one statement that a Dem. made with 0,000s of statements Trump made and consider them equal?

speaking of hypocrisy - did you comment in the Samantha Bee thread about what a vile word the "C" word is yet you've used that same vile word in the past. I'm assuming you didn't make any statements.

Didn't I pull up a thread when you where blaming the Dems. for the Scalise shooting showing that you and double standard made the exact opposite arguement when Giffords was shot?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

What do you call when you compare one statement that a Dem. made with 0,000s of statements Trump made and consider them equal?

speaking of hypocrisy - did you comment in the Samantha Bee thread about what a vile word the "C" word is yet you've used that same vile word in the past. I'm assuming you didn't make any statements.

Didn't I pull up a thread when you where blaming the Dems. for the Scalise shooting showing that you and double standard made the exact opposite arguement when Giffords was shot?

If that was the only time that Obama/Clinton demonized Republicans for their beliefs, you'd have a point. It wasn't, so you don't.

Trump is much more overtly vulgar than Obama or Clinton. I don't think he's more divisive. Liberals just didn't see the divisiveness when Obama was POTUS, because they weren't the ones getting demonized.

This is why Trump is POTUS.


"did you comment in the Samantha Bee thread about what a vile word the "C" word is yet you've used that same vile word in the past."

I didn't use it at my job. If I did, I'd expect to be fired. Apples and oranges. I concede that it's a disgusting term. No hypocrisy, zip.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If that was the only time that Obama/Clinton demonized Republicans for their beliefs, you'd have a point. It wasn't, so you don't.If you think it is a good comparison to compare the very, very few statements of Obama/Clinton to the daily tweets of Trump you have lost your mind. There is no comparison.

Trump is much more overtly vulgar than Obama or Clinton. I don't think he's more divisive. Liberals just didn't see the divisiveness when Obama was POTUS, because they weren't the ones getting demonized.yet, Trump calls Dems and the press enemies of the country and scum. Obama or Clinton never used such language - not even close. You used to complain that Obama would talk about Bush yet Obama never made lies up about him like Trump does. Drop the moral outrage.

This is why Trump is POTUS.


"did you comment in the Samantha Bee thread about what a vile word the "C" word is yet you've used that same vile word in the past."

I didn't use it at my job. If I did, I'd expect to be fired. Apples and oranges. I concede that it's a disgusting term. No hypocrisy, zip.

Sure it is hypocrisy. She is a late night comedian. Shouldn't have said it but they want late night comedians to be edgy. You used it so cut the moral outrage.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Sure it is hypocrisy. She is a late night comedian. Shouldn't have said it but they want late night comedians to be edgy. You used it so cut the moral outrage.

"calls Dems and the press enemies of the country and scum. Obama or Clinton never used such language - not even close"

Hilary said republicans are deplorable and irredeemable. Look up the definitions of those words. Again, not as vulgar as saying "scum", but of course she's expressing equal loathing for her opponents that Trump does, she's just using more elegant language. I don't give points for masking hate behind elegant language, perhaps you do.

John McCain and Mitt Romney are deplorable and irredeemable? Whatever...

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"calls Dems and the press enemies of the country and scum. Obama or Clinton never used such language - not even close"

Hilary said republicans are deplorable and irredeemable. Look up the definitions of those words. Again, not as vulgar as saying "scum", but of course she's expressing equal loathing for her opponents that Trump does, she's just using more elegant language. I don't give points for masking hate behind elegant language, perhaps you do.

John McCain and Mitt Romney are deplorable and irredeemable? Whatever...

No, Jim, she did not say all republicans are deplorable. You are generalizing and resorting to hyperbole, something you get on us liberals for all the time.

She was referring to the Trump supporters who were homophobic, xenophobic etc… That is not calling all republicans and certainly not specifically McCain and Romney deplorable. I think the folks that fall into those racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic are deplorable. On that I’d agree with her.

Listen, she wasn’t my first second or fifth choice for 2016, but I think she was a better choice than the jackass we have now. This isn’t a defense of a comment that probably could have been more tactful and less derisive, but don’t generalize to try and fit your agenda. I would also love to see Pelosi go, she isn’t the leadership I want in the current democratic party.


Quote (from politifact, I added bold),
We are living in a volatile political environment. You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"calls Dems and the press enemies of the country and scum. Obama or Clinton never used such language - not even close"

Hilary said republicans are deplorable and irredeemable. Look up the definitions of those words. Again, not as vulgar as saying "scum", but of course she's expressing equal loathing for her opponents that Trump does, she's just using more elegant language. I don't give points for masking hate behind elegant language, perhaps you do.

John McCain and Mitt Romney are deplorable and irredeemable? Whatever...

Did she say all Repubs. where deplorable? And didn't Clinton apologize the very next day? You use that tired old insult repeatedly bc there are so few to use - Whatever.