What do you see happening to your healthcare costs in the next few years

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Try it when you have a heart attack feel free to test the “free” market with your life and financial well-being on the line
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this is why we can't have a rational discussion ....

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

this is why we can't have a rational discussion ....

Saying that free market pricing for non essential elective medical procedures is a good example for how to provide healthcare is not rational.
I still would like an example of a country where the unorganized healthcare system is in place and working, other than the USA with the highest healthcare costs in the world.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Saying that free market pricing for non essential elective medical procedures is a good example for how to
provide healthcare is not rational.

I gave you an example, and said there were others, of "essential elective medical procedures" being provided by the Oklahoma clinic in which free market prices were way lower than in the highly regulated and controlled standard hospital prices.

My references to Lasik and cosmetic surgery (not what you refer to as "essential procedures") were examples of surgical procedures which are not highly regulated and which therefor have to compete on the open market. So prices are controlled by free competition and are far lower than if those procedures had to conform to costly government regulatory control. Do you believe that Lasik would be less expensive if it were provided under the same regulatory and insurance circumstances as hernia surgery?

You seem to assume that there cannot be a market based system of emergency care. Yes there can. The free market is not only good at responding to vanity and pleasure, it is just as good at responding to necessity.

I still would like an example of a country where the unorganized healthcare system is in place and working, other than the USA with the highest healthcare costs in the world.

Why by country? How about by individual providers such as the Oklahoma clinic that I mentioned? There may well be such individual providers in other countries. I haven't researched that.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Saying that free market pricing for non essential elective medical procedures is a good example for how to provide healthcare is not rational.
I still would like an example of a country where the unorganized healthcare system is in place and working, other than the USA with the highest healthcare costs in the world.

do you ever read the stuff you write?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

you are like a wind-up toy

Originally Posted by scottw

it's really hard to get an answer to a question around here....

Originally Posted by scottw

if that is $1000 "per year" that is approximately what my car and life insurance costs and I can't remember the last time I made a claim for car ins...or life...obviously......you want a lot for a very little= health insurance for $83 a month...you want unlimited visits, no co-pay and free meds too?...my answer is I'd like to pay for what I want and need from a competitive market....

Originally Posted by scottw

seems all these sanctuary cities are having big homeless problems...=...tax and fix


May 14

By Matt Day and Daniel Beekman
Seattle Times staff reporters

After a weekend of high-stakes negotiations between Seattle City Council members and Mayor Jenny Durkan, the council voted unanimously Monday to tax the city’s largest employers to help address homelessness.

Starting next year, the tax will be $275 per employee, per year on for-profit companies that gross at least $20 million per year in the city — down from a $500-per-head proposal that Durkan threatened to veto.


The city declared a homelessness state of emergency in late 2015. A point-in-time count last year tallied more than 11,600 homeless people in King County and one in 16 Seattle Public Schools students is homeless.

“We have community members who are dying,” Councilmember Teresa Mosqueda said before the 9-0 vote. “They are dying on our streets today because there is not enough shelter” and affordable housing.

Originally Posted by scottw

rich liberals should adopt the homeless

Originally Posted by scottw

so you'd like the public to give you $4000 per year for your healthcare?

Originally Posted by scottw

I don't believe that there is some fixed monthly/yearly number that everyone should pay for their healthcare....you were asked because you seem to think that there is.....

Originally Posted by scottw

why?

Originally Posted by scottw

he should just mail it to Pete for his healthcare

Originally Posted by scottw

are you and Spence drinking together today?

Originally Posted by scottw

Originally Posted by scottw

the roads are nicer too...was up there visiting a customer the other day....leaving Mass where the road looked like someone bombed it, as soon as I hit the NH line, the road was pristine....go figure?

Originally Posted by scottw

this is why we can't have a rational discussion ....

Originally Posted by scottw

do you ever read the stuff you write?

Yes and what you write also

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Yes and what you write also

some great stuff in there!