What do you see happening to your healthcare costs in the next few years

[PaulS]

Some good reading here:

The red states all have significantly lower life expectancy than blue states, owing to much higher incidences of diabetes, obesity, stroke and heart disease.
Red states have much higher rates of uninsured citizens, death, food stamp recipients and Medicaid recipients
The 10 poorest states in the nation are all red states and 97 of the 100 poorest counties are in red states.
The median income is much lower in red states than in blue states.
State funding per student is much lower in in red states.
The top 10 states that practice corporal punishment are red states.
The percent of the population with college degrees is lower in red states than in blue states.
Red states have a higher percentage of population abusing drugs.
The rate of traffic related fatalities is higher in red states.
The incidence of alcohol-related driving fatalities is higher in red states.
Of the 12 states with the highest murder rates, 10 are red states.
Of the top 10 states with the highest teenage pregnancy rates, nine are red states.
Of the top 15 states with the highest per capita execution rate, 13 are red states.
The incarceration rate is much higher in red states.
Property crimes rates are higher in red states than in blue states.
Divorce rates are significantly higher in red states.
Abstinence-only sex education is more prevalent in red states, which accounts for the fact that of the states with the highest teenage pregnancy rates, nine of the top ten are red states.
There are significantly more white supremacists hate groups in red states than in blue states.


Violence
http://editions.lib.umn.edu/smartpol...igher-crime-r/

Divorce
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25032268

Teen Pregnancies
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...een_moms_.html

Pornography
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...re-pornography

Best states for woman.
https://wallethub.com/edu/best-and-w...r-women/10728/

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Some good reading here:

The red states all have significantly lower life expectancy than blue states, owing to much higher incidences of diabetes, obesity, stroke and heart disease.
Red states have much higher rates of uninsured citizens, death, food stamp recipients and Medicaid recipients
The 10 poorest states in the nation are all red states and 97 of the 100 poorest counties are in red states.
The median income is much lower in red states than in blue states.
State funding per student is much lower in in red states.
The top 10 states that practice corporal punishment are red states.
The percent of the population with college degrees is lower in red states than in blue states.
Red states have a higher percentage of population abusing drugs.
The rate of traffic related fatalities is higher in red states.
The incidence of alcohol-related driving fatalities is higher in red states.
Of the 12 states with the highest murder rates, 10 are red states.
Of the top 10 states with the highest teenage pregnancy rates, nine are red states.
Of the top 15 states with the highest per capita execution rate, 13 are red states.
The incarceration rate is much higher in red states.
Property crimes rates are higher in red states than in blue states.
Divorce rates are significantly higher in red states.
Abstinence-only sex education is more prevalent in red states, which accounts for the fact that of the states with the highest teenage pregnancy rates, nine of the top ten are red states.
There are significantly more white supremacists hate groups in red states than in blue states.

That is surely because all those rich liberals threw the fat, drunk, abusive, illiterate deplorables out of their blue states.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Some good reading here:

The red states all have significantly lower life expectancy than blue states, owing to much higher incidences of diabetes, obesity, stroke and heart disease.
Red states have much higher rates of uninsured citizens, death, food stamp recipients and Medicaid recipients
The 10 poorest states in the nation are all red states and 97 of the 100 poorest counties are in red states.
The median income is much lower in red states than in blue states.
State funding per student is much lower in in red states.
The top 10 states that practice corporal punishment are red states.
The percent of the population with college degrees is lower in red states than in blue states.
Red states have a higher percentage of population abusing drugs.
The rate of traffic related fatalities is higher in red states.
The incidence of alcohol-related driving fatalities is higher in red states.
Of the 12 states with the highest murder rates, 10 are red states.
Of the top 10 states with the highest teenage pregnancy rates, nine are red states.
Of the top 15 states with the highest per capita execution rate, 13 are red states.
The incarceration rate is much higher in red states.
Property crimes rates are higher in red states than in blue states.
Divorce rates are significantly higher in red states.
Abstinence-only sex education is more prevalent in red states, which accounts for the fact that of the states with the highest teenage pregnancy rates, nine of the top ten are red states.
There are significantly more white supremacists hate groups in red states than in blue states.


Violence
http://editions.lib.umn.edu/smartpol...igher-crime-r/

Divorce
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25032268

Teen Pregnancies
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...een_moms_.html

Pornography
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...re-pornography

Best states for woman.
https://wallethub.com/edu/best-and-w...r-women/10728/

amazing that despite all that, they can't build $450,000 houses fast enough, in the Carolinas or the suburbs of Nashville.

Paul, instead of pointing to studies, try answering this...please point to some principles that you and I would both agree are conservative principles, that would cause people to be fat, unhealthy, poor, etc.

As to income, our median income in CT is very high. Some of that, probably much of that, has absolutely nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with how lucky we are to have beautiful waterfront real estate that is close to Manhattan.

"Of the 12 states with the highest murder rates, 10 are red states"

Break it down by city, please.

I pity all those upper middle class people moving south in droves They must really be stupid.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

amazing that despite all that, they can't build $450,000 houses fast enough, in the Carolinas or the suburbs of Nashville.


I pity all those upper middle class people moving south in droves They must really be stupid.

50-60 years ago they were building them as fast as they could in the NYC, Boston and Jersey suburbs. They must have been getting out of the liberal cities to the conservative suburbs.
Not all change is due to liberal politics, most of the people i know that moved south did it for warmer weather. Some did it for opportunity.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

50-60 years ago they were building them as fast as they could in the NYC, Boston and Jersey suburbs. They must have been getting out of the liberal cities to the conservative suburbs.
Not all change is due to liberal politics, most of the people i know that moved south did it for warmer weather. Some did it for opportunity.

the southern state Gentrification is due in large part to liberals and their money

https://www.salon.com/2016/06/17/5_s..._poor_partner/

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...420-story.html

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

50-60 years ago they were building them as fast as they could in the NYC, Boston and Jersey suburbs. They must have been getting out of the liberal cities to the conservative suburbs.
Not all change is due to liberal politics, most of the people i know that moved south did it for warmer weather. Some did it for opportunity.

50-60 years ago, CT was a cheap place to live, and called "land of steady habits". We had a value proposition back then. Not anymore.

"Not all change is due to liberal politics"

Sure, weather is part of it. But other cold states aren't lagging population growth like CT is. Cost if living is a huge factor. I could move to NH tomorrow, get almost the same house in a town with similar schools, and enjoy tax savings of $900 a month, every month., for the rest of my life. And the cost difference between NH and CT is increasing, not decreasing. That is a fortune an absolute fortune.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I could move to NH tomorrow

the roads are nicer too...was up there visiting a customer the other day....leaving Mass where the road looked like someone bombed it, as soon as I hit the NH line, the road was pristine....go figure?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

the roads are nicer too...was up there visiting a customer the other day....leaving Mass where the road looked like someone bombed it, as soon as I hit the NH line, the road was pristine....go figure?

Yeah, but they suck at plowing them
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

the roads are nicer too...was up there visiting a customer the other day....leaving Mass where the road looked like someone bombed it, as soon as I hit the NH line, the road was pristine....go figure?

and somehow, their flagship public university (UNH) is $7,000 less a year for residents, than UCONN. Despite having no state income tax and no state sales tax.

Amazing.

Here's how they do it. 7 years ago, the chief of police for the UCONN campus (whose job is to manage 15,000 college students 8 months a year, and who does nothing 4 months a year), made more than the top cop in New York City (whose job is to watch over 8 million people). Also, there are retired UCONN professors with annual pensions over $200,000 a year. Read that again. They don't allow that kind of insanity in New Hampshire.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

amazing that despite all that, they can't build $450,000 houses fast enough, in the Carolinas or the suburbs of Nashville.

Paul, instead of pointing to studies, try answering this...please point to some principles that you and I would both agree are conservative principles, that would cause people to be fat, unhealthy, poor, etc.

As to income, our median income in CT is very high. Some of that, probably much of that, has absolutely nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with how lucky we are to have beautiful waterfront real estate that is close to Manhattan.

"Of the 12 states with the highest murder rates, 10 are red states"

Break it down by city, please.

I pity all those upper middle class people moving south in droves They must really be stupid.

The median price of homes currently listed in North Carolina is $259,000 while the median price of homes that sold is $187,300.

The median price of homes currently listed in Connecticut is $315,000 while the median price of homes that sold is $239,100.

sure you can get a lot of house down there but a truck cost the same a gallon of gas isn't much cheaper a gallon of milk cost the same . some taxes are less but its still about wages

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The median price of homes currently listed in North Carolina is $259,000 while the median price of homes that sold is $187,300.

The median price of homes currently listed in Connecticut is $315,000 while the median price of homes that sold is $239,100.

sure you can get a lot of house down there but a truck cost the same a gallon of gas isn't much cheaper a gallon of milk cost the same . some taxes are less but its still about wages

"The median price of homes currently listed in North Carolina is $259,000 while the median price of homes that sold is $187,300."

Look in the Charlotte suburbs, BOOMING places like Waxhaw and Fort Mill SC. And remember, a 187k house down there, costs a lot more up here. Can't just compare dollars. Have to compare apples to apples. I'm not wrong. You want me to be wrong, I get that.

Let's have a fair comparison.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The median price of homes currently listed in North Carolina is $259,000 while the median price of homes that sold is $187,300.

The median price of homes currently listed in Connecticut is $315,000 while the median price of homes that sold is $239,100.

sure you can get a lot of house down there but a truck cost the same a gallon of gas isn't much cheaper a gallon of milk cost the same . some taxes are less but its still about wages

According to raltor.com, the median listing price in southeast Charlotte (one of the hottest areas in the country), is 425k. Look at the house I listed, 5 br brick colonial, 3400 sf on a perfectly manicured 0.6 acres, awesome public schools (I know Waxhaw), property taxes are less than 500 a month? Would be close to double that in the Hartford suburbs. That's why people are moving there. CT is no longer worth the premium you have to pay.

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...3_M67219-02349

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The median price of homes currently listed in North Carolina is $259,000 while the median price of homes that sold is $187,300.

The median price of homes currently listed in Connecticut is $315,000 while the median price of homes that sold is $239,100.

sure you can get a lot of house down there but a truck cost the same a gallon of gas isn't much cheaper a gallon of milk cost the same . some taxes are less but its still about wages

Beer is cheaper, dining out is cheaper, property taxes are waaaaaay cheaper. Vehicles last longer because they don’t rot out from all the salt on the roads in winter. Spring starts in February vs June up here
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Beer is cheaper, dining out is cheaper, property taxes are waaaaaay cheaper. Vehicles last longer because they don’t rot out from all the salt on the roads in winter. Spring starts in February vs June up here
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Houses also cheaper.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Houses also cheaper.

Yep, I could sell my house in mass, buy a bigger house in NC and put about $100k in the bank to help supplement my retirement.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Yep, I could sell my house in mass, buy a bigger house in NC and put about $100k in the bank to help supplement my retirement.
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NC is high on my list - you?