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11-13-2017, 02:55 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Great points made in that video, the news sensationalizes these events, whether it's a domestic violence shooting, road rage or these mass shootings. Very valid and I believe spot on, however I also believe bad gun vs good gun, or bad hunting rifle vs good hunting rifle would have lessened the head counts on many of these incidents.
I never suggested, nor would I see a need to limit the sales of guns, rifles, shotguns, you name it; I would however agree with legislation that either eliminates these assault rifles, accessories that allow them to increase the ammo they can discharge per clip or the rate it can be discharged. Our founding fathers limited the sales of arms, gun powder and who could own them; legislating for the public's safety is not a new idea.
The other point in this video is that these nuts want their 15 minutes of fame because they are sick, off their meds or are having problems dealing with some crisis in their lives, getting them mental health help isn't something we should be making harder to get. Not all will take advantage or if they do benefit from it, but it should be available like the free mental health program MGH supports for veterans.
Society and the government view the drug problem as an epidemic with 59,000+ deaths in 2016, why would the deaths from gun violence not be viewed the same way? Ok, now back to your regularly scheduled 2a program.
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11-13-2017, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Great points made in that video, the news sensationalizes these events, whether it's a domestic violence shooting, road rage or these mass shootings. Very valid and I believe spot on, however I also believe bad gun vs good gun, or bad hunting rifle vs good hunting rifle would have lessened the head counts on many of these incidents.
I never suggested, nor would I see a need to limit the sales of guns, rifles, shotguns, you name it; I would however agree with legislation that either eliminates these assault rifles, accessories that allow them to increase the ammo they can discharge per clip or the rate it can be discharged. Our founding fathers limited the sales of arms, gun powder and who could own them; legislating for the public's safety is not a new idea.
The other point in this video is that these nuts want their 15 minutes of fame because they are sick, off their meds or are having problems dealing with some crisis in their lives, getting them mental health help isn't something we should be making harder to get. Not all will take advantage or if they do benefit from it, but it should be available like the free mental health program MGH supports for veterans.
Society and the government view the drug problem as an epidemic with 59,000+ deaths in 2016, why would the deaths from gun violence not be viewed the same way? Ok, now back to your regularly scheduled 2a program.
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Nor would I ... But the 2a people will always argue and only hear confiscation. unless you agree with them 100%
http://www.breitbart.com/california/...ublic-attacks/
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11-13-2017, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
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Agreed. On this issue you see a lot of conservatives (not any here I don't think, but definitely on the TV) who act like if you think that there should be any restrictions, then you are necessarily in favor of trashing the constitution and imposing tyranny. It's very difficult to have a rational conversation on this topic with many conservatives. I don't believe (obviously) my side is irrational on a lot of issues, but on this one...a lot of scare tactics from my side.
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11-13-2017, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
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There is NOTHING in the article that says this is the ONLY thing the writers hear. It is A thing they reported, and which YOU called to our attention. Thank you. Wouldn't have known about it if you hadn't pointed it out.
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11-14-2017, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
There is NOTHING in the article that says this is the ONLY thing the writers hear. It is A thing they reported, and which YOU called to our attention. Thank you. Wouldn't have known about it if you hadn't pointed it out.
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I guess you missed (Firearm Confiscation ) in the lead banner
The comment section is a hoot ..
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11-14-2017, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
I guess you missed (Firearm Confiscation ) in the lead banner
The comment section is a hoot ..
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Having an opinion, no matter how strong your opinion is, does not mean that you have not heard the other side, or sides. It means you believe your "side" is right.
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11-13-2017, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
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Well, remember also the mission of Breitbart is primarily to stir the pot and push conspiracy theories...or just outright lie.
Thank god nobody from that organization ever had their hands in US policy.
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11-13-2017, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Well, remember also the mission of Breitbart is primarily to stir the pot and push conspiracy theories...or just outright lie.
Thank god nobody from that organization ever had their hands in US policy.
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Actually, I remember the mission of Breitbart to be different than your BS portrayal. Nor is your BS relevant to my response to wdmso.
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11-13-2017, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Actually, I remember the mission of Breitbart to be different than your BS portrayal. Nor is your BS relevant to my response to wdmso.
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What, to destroy the GOP establishment and replace it with a corrupt, anti-American, racist, bigoted and misogynistic perversion of a party?
Sounds like a great mission.
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11-13-2017, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
What, to destroy the GOP establishment and replace it with a corrupt, anti-American, racist, bigoted and misogynistic perversion of a party?
Sounds like a great mission.
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Breitbart is not racist, corrupt, anti-American, bigoted, or misogynistic. The GOP and much more so the Democrat parties have been corrupted from what used to be American into a globalist, elitist, authoritarian cabal. I understand from your posts that you are enamored of such corruption. It makes you a bigot in support of it.
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11-13-2017, 09:43 PM
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Also known as OAK
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Breitbart is not racist, corrupt, anti-American, bigoted, or misogynistic. The GOP and much more so the Democrat parties have been corrupted from what used to be American into a globalist, elitist, authoritarian cabal. I understand from your posts that you are enamored of such corruption. It makes you a bigot in support of it.
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The original brietbart wasnt. The Steve bannon version is most of those things.
How does the NWO fit in to your rant?
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Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-13-2017, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
What, to destroy the GOP establishment and replace it with a corrupt, anti-American, racist, bigoted and misogynistic perversion of a party?
Sounds like a great mission.
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you forgot homophobic, xenophobic, nativist, capitalist, sexist, ageist, fundamentalist, radical, extremist....wait...I think you've been predicting the destruction of the GOP establishment for like 15 years...are you suggesting we're finally here?
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11-14-2017, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
What, to destroy the GOP establishment and replace it with a corrupt, anti-American, racist, bigoted and misogynistic perversion of a party?
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Great post.
That sleazy group is trying their hardest to dig up dirt on Moore's accusers. I wonder if they will come up with a video?
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11-14-2017, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Great post.
That sleazy group is trying their hardest to dig up dirt on Moore's accusers.
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they should put Hillary in charge..she needs a job and has experience 
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11-14-2017, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Great post.
That sleazy group is trying their hardest to dig up dirt on Moore's accusers. I wonder if they will come up with a video?
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Sleazy is in the eye of the beholder. Some eyes would behold digging up dirt on Moore was sleazy.
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