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10-28-2017, 08:46 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chasing fat girls in the dark
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Meant to post sooner. Based on the earlier season reports from Cool Beans and others that were finding keeper sized fish very shallow, and my early season of fishing deep with nothing but shorts, my plan was to get as close as possible to the top of the bumps and apparently, that was the key. We were the second boat at Great Ledge at about 7:05. The first boat was on the NE corner of the ledge, probably in 25-35'. By 7:30, we had 3 18" fish in the live well. By 8:00 there were about 15 boats there, somewhat spread out. Most fished for about an hour and then moved on. By the end of the tide, around 10:00 or so, we had 11 keepers but I didn't see many other boats putting fish in the box. As the tide slowed, so did the bite, so we moved out to Wilks Ledge looking for bigger fish. Did the same thing, got right on top of the bump and had the same result but with bigger fish. My temp gauge has been stuck at 32 since the second season so I don't know what the temp was or if there was a difference between Great and Wilks. Seemed a bit colder at Wilks, based on live well water.
I thought it was worth sharing because everything I've read and watched on togging says that early, deeper is better for the bigger fish, likely due to colder water. A couple of weeks before, we started off by Cleavlands and the water was hot and it was all very small fish. We moved to The Bow Bells off of Marion and found colder water and bigger fish. It was a grey, foggy, rainy, cold day but the fishing was very slow. Then we have a bright sunny, flat calm, hot day and the fish are as shallow as they can find and the bite is on fire. Goes against everything I thought I knew about tog fishing. Was this just a fluke (pun intended) day? My pics didn't post for some reason. I'll put them up later.
I think it was Cohen Fishin that was talking about catching tog on jigs in a couple of feet of water when large swell washes over rock piles. Almost as if the tog are feeding on crabs getting swept out of the rocks. Maybe the crabs (like blue crabs) like to sun themselves and they are the ones searching out the highest possible point on the rock piles and the tog are just there for that reason. Maybe they wouldn't have been there like that had it ben an overcast foggy day?
The other thing I noticed was that the fish came in very different colors. Some were very dark rusty red and some looked bleached out. I know that when the bass show in the spring, they have dark green backs and black stripes and sea lice. You can tell the difference between the ones that have been here for a while because they're not as vibrant. I wonder if that is the same with tog and can we learn or predict anything from that.
It was a great day. I think next year, we should get it planned out earlier and all launch from the same place and have a weigh in time or something. Maybe do a biggest fish pool. I don't often get to attend the couple of social events through the season but the few that i have were a good time. Thanks to Ray for keeping this alive.
Last edited by Liv2Fish; 10-28-2017 at 08:47 AM..
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10-28-2017, 02:26 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
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Hit RI early today and I'm glad we did, because the 5-10 and 2 footers predicted, turned into a steady 10-15 and 4-5 footers by the time we pulled the last hook. We easily got our boat limit of 10 tog, with several pushing 23-24 inches and the double degit mark, along with a half dozen sea bass. I should have brought a bigger cooler, I could fit my 5 tog and a couple sea bass in there with the frozen bottles and then after, could barely put the cover on the largest baking dish I had to bring the filets in the house to start vacuum sealing some. I love big tog, man they are just such bull dogs, my buddy had a big one on, that he couldn't move and finally had to break off.
Glad he took my advice after the last trip and put together a grapnel anchor made out of rebar, easier to pull free and re-bend if neeed and it held pretty good considering the conditions.
Last edited by Got Stripers; 10-28-2017 at 04:14 PM..
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10-28-2017, 09:09 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Burnt Hills, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Hit RI early today and I'm glad we did, because the 5-10 and 2 footers predicted, turned into a steady 10-15 and 4-5 footers by the time we pulled the last hook. We easily got our boat limit of 10 tog, with several pushing 23-24 inches and the double degit mark, along with a half dozen sea bass. I should have brought a bigger cooler, I could fit my 5 tog and a couple sea bass in there with the frozen bottles and then after, could barely put the cover on the largest baking dish I had to bring the filets in the house to start vacuum sealing some. I love big tog, man they are just such bull dogs, my buddy had a big one on, that he couldn't move and finally had to break off.
Glad he took my advice after the last trip and put together a grapnel anchor made out of rebar, easier to pull free and re-bend if neeed and it held pretty good considering the conditions.
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Impressive catch !!!!
Lots of good eating there....
I don't vacuum pack, instead I fill the ziplock bag with filtered water, lay it flat and it freezes the filet in a "block of ice".... wonder if one way is better than the other.
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10-28-2017, 09:24 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chasing fat girls in the dark
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Originally Posted by fish raptor
Impressive catch !!!!
Lots of good eating there....
I don't vacuum pack, instead I fill the ziplock bag with filtered water, lay it flat and it freezes the filet in a "block of ice".... wonder if one way is better than the other.
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Do the same except with salt water. I fill an Arizona ice tea jug out where it's "clean". Garandmother taught me that one. Didn't this time though.
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