Charlottesville

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by DZ

Paul,
From what I understood and the way I interpreted his statement was that there were residents at the protest who were not white supremacists or KKK members and who legitimately did not want the statues removed. There were no doubt others at the protest who wanted the statues removed but were not necessarily members of Antifa (like the young women who was killed). These people/groups could be what Trump considered "fine" people. Just ordinary Americans who picked a side and did not resort to violence.

That's what most people, without a bitter hatred for Trump, took it to mean as well.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

That's what most people, without a bitter hatred for Trump, took it to mean as well.

I think that is too nuanced for Pres. Trump.

Does that mean I have a bitter hatred for him?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Does that mean I have a bitter hatred for him?

Are you saying you don't?

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

That's what most people, without a bitter hatred for Trump, took it to mean as well.

^^^^

The people that deplore the violent right + Nazis + KKK and deplore the violent left + commies + anarchists. Those people that are in the middle and some will promote keeping of historical monuments and some will promote removal of said historical monuments.

Yes - most of us knew what it meant. Some, I'll bet, clearly knew what it meant but thrashed anyway

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Are you saying you don't?

Not even close. I haven't called him a POS, posted unflattering pictures or mocked him, called him out for petty things (well occasionally), etc. (of which we had 8 years here of that w/Obama) with little if any push back or criticism except from a few of us. I do think he is not very smart, has no strategy, the WH is in a constant state of turmoil, and he appeals to racists (I'm sure we'll hear about that here).

I call out his constant lying and many times point out people's double standards.

Many members of his own party (and cabinet) have called him out for his statements and the seemingly moral equivalency he tried to make.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Not even close. I haven't called him a POS, posted unflattering pictures or mocked him, called him out for petty things, etc. (of which we had 8 years here of that w/Obama) with little if any push back or criticism except from a few of us. I do think he is not very smart, has no strategy, the WH is in a constant state of turmoil, and appeals to racists (I'm sure we'll hear about that here).

I call out his constant lying and many times point out people's double standards.

Many members of his own party (and cabinet) have called him out for his statements and the seemingly moral equivalency he tried to make.

"I do think he is not very smart" Agreed.

"has no strategy" Disagree. But he's figuring out that unlike in the business world, he can't wave his hand and make everything happen that he wants to happen.

"the WH is in a constant state of turmoil" Absolutely agree.

"appeals to racists " It appeals to some kooks. If we hold presidents accountable for the actions of those they appeal to, you must have some harsh words for Obama about the cop assassinations that spiked at the end of his second term?