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Old 12-04-2016, 08:26 AM   #1
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Seem you guys only like to focus on 1 part at a time

Business left for cheap labor little to no regulation and Inversions all combined to see these companys leave

they made profits in the USA greed moved them from the USA

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Old 12-04-2016, 11:47 AM   #2
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Seem you guys only like to focus on 1 part at a time

You focused on one thing, inversions, and disregarded production. I guess it's ok when you do it. Actually, I focused on both being methods of evading costs. And both can be addressed by changing our government regulations and tax structure, as well as wage contracts--all which, as they are now, make it significantly cheaper to move either production or tax liability elsewere.

Business left for cheap labor little to no regulations and inversions all combined to see these companys leave.

That's basically what I said, but not in as a demeaning manner as you.

they made profits in the USA greed moved them from the USA
In the global economy, they made profits worldwide. Why should they only satisfy the greed of the U.S.government and of American workers (to use the same demeaning rhetoric you use)?
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Old 12-04-2016, 08:48 PM   #3
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Seem you guys only like to focus on 1 part at a time

Business left for cheap labor little to no regulation and Inversions all combined to see these companys leave

they made profits in the USA greed moved them from the USA
The CT budget is tanking because of stupid spending. We have high tax rates applied to very high incomes. Add to that, hundreds of millions a year from the casinos. That's more than enough.

Yes, you are right about why companies leave. Companies exist to make money. Do you not make decisions based on your financial self-interest?

The solution, is to make it more attractive for companies to stay, and less attractive for them to leave. Do that, and more will stay.

I presume you have never worked for a business that ever had to balance revenue with expenses.
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Old 12-05-2016, 07:40 AM   #4
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The CT budget is tanking because of stupid spending. We have high tax rates applied to very high incomes. Add to that, hundreds of millions a year from the casinos. That's more than enough.

Yes, you are right about why companies leave. Companies exist to make money. Do you not make decisions based on your financial self-interest?

The solution, is to make it more attractive for companies to stay, and less attractive for them to leave. Do that, and more will stay.

I presume you have never worked for a business that ever had to balance revenue with expenses.

The solution, is to make it more attractive for companies to stay..

By basically giving them what ever they want ? maximizing their profits by diminishing their Tax responsibilities reducing their regulation . pass the risk to the tax payer . to keep 1000 jobs with a low % they will be there when the tax incentives sunset .. not my idea of the Big picture .. I get it greed is good ... but these are muti billion dollar profit companies .. not the man on the street plumber company or guy who runs 4 trucks ... no ones giving them a thing Because they cant leave nobody cares about them.. they are sold the same BS about de regulation and taxes but the reality it never trickles down to them

So dont even try to compare local business with Carrier
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Old 12-05-2016, 09:17 AM   #5
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The solution, is to make it more attractive for companies to stay..

By basically giving them what ever they want ? maximizing their profits by diminishing their Tax responsibilities reducing their regulation . pass the risk to the tax payer . to keep 1000 jobs with a low % they will be there when the tax incentives sunset .. not my idea of the Big picture .. I get it greed is good ... but these are muti billion dollar profit companies .. not the man on the street plumber company or guy who runs 4 trucks ... no ones giving them a thing Because they cant leave nobody cares about them.. they are sold the same BS about de regulation and taxes but the reality it never trickles down to them

So dont even try to compare local business with Carrier
"By basically giving them what ever they want "

Again, you are responding to something that I never said (you have that habit, in case you didn't know). No - not give them whatever they want. But we need to take our boots off of their throats. Reasonable taxes, reasonable regulations. Stop acting like business is some limitless ATM that your labor union can raid whenever it feels like.

Have you ever worked in the private sector? Ever?

"to keep 1000 jobs with a low % they will be there when the tax incentives sunset "

Oh, so now you're a fortune teller, too. Impressive.
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