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Old 10-27-2016, 07:40 AM   #1
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I don't think anyone, except the "stupid" Americans Gruber was counting on to help get Obamacare passed, is surprised. Certainly not Obama. The intention all along is that it would fail. Obama was saying as far back as 2003 that single payer government health care was needed and would require a transitional private sector form--such as Obamacare for instance--before it could be made a reality.

The necessary transition has come, is on its way toward disappearing, and Hillary will work to usher in universal government healthcare.

I am OK with health coverage for all citizens (Citizens Only!!!) and even single payer, provided:

Fix the budget deficit first
Plan reduction to national debt (how?)
Fix SS

If Government shows it can be responsible and do all that without cutting/gutting defense, I would even pay a little extra in taxes.

Currently, our elected Government has not shown well enough if it can manage its current responsibilities let alone manage new ones.

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Old 10-27-2016, 08:30 AM   #2
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I am OK with health coverage for all citizens (Citizens Only!!!) .
Agreed. But what you have to do (which Obamacare failed at) is to get young, healthy people to pay in to the system as well. The math doesn't work if only sick people sign up, you need to spread the cost among healthy people too.

And there's a whole lot of fraud and waste that needs to be addressed, that would at least put a dent in costs.

The timing of the premium spikes will help Trump. Probably not enough, but it will help.
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