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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I guess you would have to say it is bc Repub. have no use for minorities. Why else would the Repub. do it if there is no fraud?

What did the judge who threw out the NC law say - something like it targeted African-Americans with almost surgical precision. The only reason to do it would be to depress black turnout at the polls.

Yup, they should try conservatism

"I guess you would have to say it is bc Repub. have no use for minorities"

Yes, you would say that. And it's laughable. I wonder, then, why George Bush heroically rammed his AIDS relief plan through Congress, and is credited with saving over one million lives of AIDS patients in Africa? Or why he promoted Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, and Colin Powell?

"Why else would the Repub. do it if there is no fraud?"

One reason is because there is, in fact, some fraud. Not a lot, naturally. But not "no fraud", either.

"it targeted African-Americans with almost surgical precision"

But WHY??? I honestly want to know, because I have no idea, why this is more of a burden for blacks than it is for other races? Why? If blacks can go through the same process to get an id, but freely choose not to, is THAT racist? Just because voter id laws reduce black voting turnout more than they restrict white voter turnout, that doesn't mean it's racist. It could mean that whites are more likely to care enough about voting, to go through the hassle of getting the id. If the process is more burdensome to blacks, that's racist. If it's not more burdensome for blacks, that means they are freely choosing not to get the id, which would not be racist.

"they should try conservatism "

Tell the blacks in Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport, Chicago, Milwaukee, Baltimore, and St Louis, that liberalism has been a positive influence. My God, how could it be worse?

Paul, here is the thing...Bill Clinton did a lot of the economic things that conservatives endorse...he kicked millions of blacks off welfare. Do you know what happened? They went to work. And he is a liberal hero. But if I suggest the same thing, his wife says I am a racist. If you can explain that hypocrisy, I would love to hear it.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT;1108296
"Why else would the Repub. do it if there is no fraud?"

One reason is because there is, in fact, some fraud. Not a lot, naturally. But not "no fraud", either.
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So the Repub. will disenfranchise lots of minorities bc there is "some fraud". In some of the states these types of laws have been enacted, there is been 0 fraud.[/COLOR]
"it targeted African-Americans with almost surgical precision"

But WHY??? We have discussed this numerous times - pls go back and read those postings. And that is a different issue. The issue her is why did the Repub. legisl. in many states pass these type of laws. The reason is to prevent minorities from voting..

I deleted my original post bc I didn't read the 1st page. So I responded and then saw wdmso brought up the same "surgical precision".

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I deleted my original post bc I didn't read the 1st page. So I responded and then saw wdmso brought up the same "surgical precision".

Finally, someone who can tell us how this affects African Americans more then others .
Go ahead . The stage is all yours .
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by buckman

Finally, someone who can tell us how this affects African Americans more then others .
Go ahead . The stage is all yours .
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Go back and look at prior threads - this issue was covered multiple times.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Go back and look at prior threads - this issue was covered multiple times.

I'm too lazy .
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Go back and look at prior threads - this issue was covered multiple times.

No, it has been asked multiple times. It has been answered, zero times. Because the burden of getting the id, obviously, is not a function of race.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No, it has been asked multiple times. It has been answered, zero times. Because the burden of getting the id, obviously, is not a function of race.

How about this. If I pull up a thread where we discussed this exact same issue from now on every time you bring up a topic that has been discussed before and someone points it out, you don't particpate in the rest of that thread?

Funny you mention Colin Powell - he just said the whole Birther movement was racist.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Funny you mention Colin Powell - he just said the whole Birther movement was racist.

Just because he said it doesn't make it so....

Was it Idiotic? Yes. Was it Misguided? Yes. Was it one Party trying to defame the other party's candidate? Yes

Was it Racist? Absolutely not....

that term has gotten sooooo over-used it has completely lost its validity in most arguments.

Please tell me how asking someone to produce their birth certificate, or claiming they're not a US citizen, meets the definition of racism.

rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
noun: racism

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

How about this. If I pull up a thread where we discussed this exact same issue from now on every time you bring up a topic that has been discussed before and someone points it out, you don't particpate in the rest of that thread?

Funny you mention Colin Powell - he just said the whole Birther movement was racist.

This is surreal. We keep asking why the id process is more burdensome for blacks, and you will not answer. You dodge. You re-direct. You insult. But you cannot answer the question directly.

Colin Powell? Now that his emails were hacked, we really know what he thinks of Hilary (ambitious, full of hubris) and her pervert husband (still di*king bimbos in his home!!!).

Of course, some racists were birthers. That doesn't mean questioning his birth, was necessarily racist. Some of them weren't racist, just paranoid or stupid or uninformed.

Anyway, one final time...please tell us why it's harder for blacks to get this id, than whites.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

We have discussed this numerous times - pls go back and read those postings. And that is a different issue. The issue her is why did the Repub. legisl. in many states pass these type of laws. The reason is to prevent minorities from voting".

Paul, remind me.

THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE CAN CLAIM THE PROCESS IS DIFFERENT, OR INHERENTLY MORE BURDENSOME, FOR ONE RACE.

Come on.