3 more cops assassinated, Obama says we eed to focus on words that unite

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

You just can't fix stupid, especially when the person feels they are so superior to others.
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But it works. As long as one has no reservations with being devoid of morals, then embracing the liberal ideology is quite effective as a political strategy. Here in my home state of CT, we have a very wealthy and educated citizenry. Yet everything is a mess, we are on the brink of insolvency, and we rank near the bottom of almost everything that can be measured, and people who work cannot flee the state fast enough. Yet the liberals get 99.98% of the vote every November. It's un-explainable.

There at the Democrat convention, you have the very people who were actively working against Bernie Sanders, telling the crowd to show them respect, and saying that the story isn't what was in the emails, but rather, who brought them to light.

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

But it works. As long as one has no reservations with being devoid of morals, then embracing the liberal ideology is quite effective as a political strategy. Here in my home state of CT, we have a very wealthy and educated citizenry. Yet everything is a mess, we are on the brink of insolvency, and we rank near the bottom of almost everything that can be measured, and people who work cannot flee the state fast enough. Yet the liberals get 99.98% of the vote every November. It's un-explainable.

There at the Democrat convention, you have the very people who were actively working against Bernie Sanders, telling the crowd to show them respect, and saying that the story isn't what was in the emails, but rather, who brought them to light.

The Democratic party of inclusion apparently didn't want to include the other Democrat in the race.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

The Democratic party of inclusion apparently didn't want to include the other Democrat in the race.
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Which, of course, is the only reason they have the superdelegates. So that the people who run the DNC, and not the citizenry they claim to serve, can decide who gets the nomination. How democratic.

I will admit, since my party shot ourselves in the foot with our nominee, it would be tempting to wish that the party heads would step in and override the folks and pick someone with a better chance of winning. But the man won fair and square. Somehow.

[buckman]

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1105091

I will admit, since my party shot ourselves in the foot with our nominee, it would be tempting to wish that the party heads would step in and override the folks and pick someone with a better chance of winning. But the man won fair and square. Somehow.[/QUOTE]

The trouble is the party would've never put in somebody that would bring change to the system. A totally corrupt system that is run by both the GOP and the Democrats .
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

The trouble is the party would've never put in somebody that would bring change to the system. A totally corrupt system that is run by both the GOP and the Democrats .
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Agreed, but you have to win, before you can change anything. And it's harder to win, when your candidate is such a jerk, that he makes fun of John McCain's incarceration or Carly Fiorina's appearance, and he doesn't apologize until one of his handlers tells him to.

We are broken, and we need some fixin'.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Agreed, but you have to win, before you can change anything. And it's harder to win, when your candidate is such a jerk, that he makes fun of John McCain's incarceration or Carly Fiorina's appearance, and he doesn't apologize until one of his handlers tells him to.

Apparently, making fun of McCain made it easier for Trump to win. Maybe that's why he did it. To win. And then be able to change anything.

Nicey-nice McCain (except when he disparaged or "eviscerated", as you like to put it, anyone who disagreed with him) apparently didn't know how to win the Presidency. His machine makes it possible to get re-elected over and over in Arizona, but he maxes out at that point.

Maybe Trump understands the gutters that must be waded through in order to cross over into "winning" the Presidency.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Apparently, making fun of McCain made it easier for Trump to win. Maybe that's why he did it. To win. And then be able to change anything.

Nicey-nice McCain (except when he disparaged or "eviscerated", as you like to put it, anyone who disagreed with him) apparently didn't know how to win the Presidency. His machine makes it possible to get re-elected over and over in Arizona, but he maxes out at that point.

Maybe Trump understands the gutters that must be waded through in order to cross over into "winning" the Presidency.

Trump's antics allowed him to distinguish himself from the other 85 Republicans running, that's for sure. And in this brain-dead culture, that kind of bombastic behavior will win you some fans who will ignore a more mild mannered candidate. We'll see what effect it has in the general. Unchartered waters here. I don't remember a race where I found both candidates to be morally gross.

Who did McCain ever eviscerate?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by buckman

The trouble is the party would've never put in somebody that would bring change to the system. A totally corrupt system that is run by both the GOP and the Democrats .
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Can you pls. post that link I asked about earlier.

Thanks

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Can you pls. post that link I asked about earlier.

Thanks

It's in Wikipedia. Never guilty of anything . You are talking about 1973 for God sake . Things were quite different back then. do you remember ?
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by buckman

It's in Wikipedia. Never guilty of anything . You are talking about 1973 for God sake . Things were quite different back then. do you remember ?
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I searched wikipedia and nothing came up.

http://www.clearinghouse.net/detail.php?id=15342

Case Name United States v. Fred C. Trump, Donald Trump, and Trump Management, Inc. FH-NY-0024
Docket / Court 73-1529 ( E.D.N.Y. )
State/Territory New York
Case Type(s) Fair Housing/Lending/Insurance

Attorney Organization U.S. Dept. of Justice Civil Rights Division

Case Summary



This case was brought against Fred and Donald Trump, and their real estate company, in 1973 in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York. We are working to obtain the relevant documents. In the meantime, the facts in the summary are from an article by Michael Kranish and Robert O'Harrow Jr. in the Washington Post, Inside the government’s racial bias case against Donald Trump’s company, and how he fought it (Jan. 23, 2016).

In October 1973, the Justice Department filed this civil rights case in federal court in Brooklyn against Fred Trump, Donald Trump, and their real estate company. The complaint alleged that the firm had committed systemic violations of the Fair Housing Act of 1968 in their many complexes--39 buildings, between them containing over 14,000 apartments. The allegations included evidence from black and white "testers" who had sought to rent apartments; the white testers were told of vacancies; the black testers were not, or were steered to apartment complexes with a higher proportion of racial minorities. The complaint also alleged that Trump employees had placed codes next to housing applicant names to indicate if they were black.

The Trumps retained Roy Cohn, former aide to Senator Joseph McCarthy, to defend them; they counter-claimed against the government, seeking $100 million in damages for defamation.

The case was assigned to District Judge Edward R. Neaher. He dismissed the counterclaim and allowed the Fair Housing Act suit to proceed.

After two years, the matter settled with a consent decree, signed June 10, 1975. It included the ordinary disclaimer of liability (the settlement was “in no way an admission” of a violation"), but prohibited the Trumps from "discriminating against any person in the terms, conditions, or privileges of sale or rental of a dwelling." Fred and Donald Trump were ordered to "thoroughly acquaint themselves personally on a detailed basis" with the Fair Housing Act. The agreement also required the Trumps to place ads informing minorities they had an equal opportunity to seek housing at their properties. According to a contemporary article in the New York Times, Trump Management was required to furnish the New York Urban League with a weekly list of all apartment vacancies, for two years; the League would get three days to provide qualified applicants for every fifth vacancy in Trump buildings where fewer than 10 percent of the tenants were black.

The Justice Department called the decree “one of the most far-reaching ever negotiated.” Newspaper headlines echoed that view. “Minorities win housing suit,” said the New York Amsterdam News, which told readers that “qualified Blacks and Puerto Ricans now have the opportunity to rent apartments owned by Trump Management.”

In his autobiography, Donald Trump took a different view: “In the end the government couldn’t prove its case, and we ended up making a minor settlement without admitting any guilt.”