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Old 07-21-2016, 10:56 PM   #1
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Do you know what the word means?
This is a hilarious question coming from you--the classic morpher of meaning--the shifty shifter of context--the master of squishy words--the euphemistic apologist for "wrong doing"--the relentless deconstructer of logic--the pooh-pooher of history--the ultimate Progressive tool of Orwellian double-speak.

Do you actually care about meaning, or care only if it can be twisted to further a Progressive ideology or support a Progressive politician?

Here, you switch from "narcissist" to "narcissistic personality disorder," which are not the same. Just as you replace principles with values when you want to destroy the distinction and create a simplistic field of discussion which gives your preferred notions or your selected candidates a narrower possibility of being damaged.

You happily glom on to idiotic Progressive definitions of "racism" as in the U.N. definition which makes a list of words, ethnicity, national origin, descent, race, and others, implying a cognate relationship, which would be true if they were grouped under a separate heading with, possibly, its own adjectival form or cognate noun form. Instead, it makes them false cognates by applying the adjectival form of race to all the others in the list. So the adjectival form for ethnicity (ethnic), national origin (nationality), race (racist), etc., would, for all of them be "racist," and by extension the cognate noun form "racism." An analogy of a correct way of tying together a group of words such as red, blue, yellow, green, brown, for example, as true cognates would be under the heading "color." Instead, the Orwellian, Progressive, Spencist method of eliminating the inconvenient divergence of colors (meanings) into a more useful rhetorical tool to control behavior, let's say, to attribute the inflammatory characteristic of "blueness" to all "colors," one merely defines the adjectival form of all the "colors" as "bluish." Then red, yellow, green, brown all will be "bluish," so instead of having their own characteristics, they will all have its undesirable, destructive, highly inflammatory connotations.

This all, of course, is part of Progressive rule by whim, by "interpretation," by rhetorical manipulation. Control not by lessons of historical precedent, not by rule of law, not with language whose words have steadfast, distinct, meanings.

For it all to "work," the regulators must be "experts." They must be as "smart" and shifty as Spence. And let us not call them liars. They most assuredly will have a euphemism which absolves them of that kind of "wrong doing."

And one of the most popular Presidents, Bill Clinton, was a narcissist. He may have even had a narcissistic personality disorder. And, yeah, Hilary has narcissistic traits, as do most politicians. Especially in this day and age when they have far more power over the rest of us than the Constitution, which they routinely ignore, allows them to have.

So y'all got to get over the narcissism thing. They all do it.

And Trump, like Bill Clinton, has an open flare for living, an overt lust for life (as we know it in the U.S.A) which makes him a more emotionally attractive being to regular folks than the ideologically driven, bloodless moral narcissism (except when she gets angry) of Hilary.

If you allow yourself to step away from anti-trump spin, which is mostly hearsay and concocted denigration, you might actually see that he is less likely to damage the country than Hilary especially in nominating Judges--if you care about that. But, we seem to care more about personality. And we have bought into the Progressive desire to centralize power in the hands of the President. We tend to idolize and adore our candidates. In truth, they are not smarter, or better, than most of us.

We just allow them to be all that. Maybe we are dumber.

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Old 07-22-2016, 08:46 AM   #2
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Here, you switch from "narcissist" to "narcissistic personality disorder," which are not the same. Just as you replace principles with values when you want to destroy the distinction and create a simplistic field of discussion which gives your preferred notions or your selected candidates a narrower possibility of being damaged.
They are not the same but share a common root. Because someone has some narcissistic traits (we all do) doesn't make them a narcissist. When it becomes a controlling factor it may be a disorder which Trump certainly appears to have.

Great read here:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...iter-tells-all

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If you allow yourself to step away from anti-trump spin, which is mostly hearsay and concocted denigration,
I don't know if you're just lying here or being contrary, regardless it's an irrational statement.

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you might actually see that he is less likely to damage the country than Hilary especially in nominating Judges--if you care about that. But, we seem to care more about personality. And we have bought into the Progressive desire to centralize power in the hands of the President. We tend to idolize and adore our candidates. In truth, they are not smarter, or better, than most of us.
There's more to leading the country than nominating justices. I'm very concerned his personality lacks the very skills necessary to be President. If he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth one may wonder if he'd had any success at all.
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There's more to leading the country than nominating justices. I'm very concerned his personality lacks the very skills necessary to be President. If he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth one may wonder if he'd had any success at all.
I'm more concerned that Hillary lacks the ethics , competence and judgment to be president. If she wasn't married to Bill Clinton we wouldn't even know who the hell she was
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Before she even met Bill she had distinguished records at Wellesley and Yale Law. To claim her success is only because of her husband is pretty sexist...
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Before she even met Bill she had distinguished records at Wellesley and Yale Law. To claim her success is only because of her husband is pretty sexist...
"Distinguished records" as a student are nice, though very limited, successes. I think Buck was referring to success in the "real world," not the cloistered environment of a student's record in academe.
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"Distinguished records" as a student are nice, though very limited, successes. I think Buck was referring to success in the "real world," not the cloistered environment of a student's record in academe.
Most ambitious people I know who did exceptionally well in school ended up doing well as adults...and Clinton set a very aggressive trajectory.
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[QUOTE=spence;1104778]Most ambitious people I know who did exceptionally well in school ended up doing well as adults...and Clinton set a very aggressive trajectory.[/QUOTE

Too bad she took the Bernie Madoff route
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Before she even met Bill she had distinguished records at Wellesley and Yale Law. To claim her success is only because of her husband is pretty sexist...
Success? Perhaps
Infamy? Bill
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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He certainly didn't help by staining a blue dress.
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[QUOTE=spence;1104762]To claim her success is only because of her husband is pretty sexist...[/QUOTE

Also pretty true which is exactly why she is the poor representation of someone breaking the glass ceiling .
Do you think they would be worth 200 million without "public service "?
I have to say, how they pull that one off and havent been put in jail yet is one incredible achievement .
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Also pretty true which is exactly why she is the poor representation of someone breaking the glass ceiling .
Do you think they would be worth 200 million without "public service "?
I have to say, how they pull that one off and havent been put in jail yet is one incredible achievement .
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It's because She's a Bond Villain...you said it yourself.
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funny how "dedicating your life to public service" and starting a "charity" can make you 200 million.....huh?
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