white cops vs black criminals

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Tim
The girlfriend was NOT the driver, the video was reversed
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I didn't catch the mirrored video..I did hear that he was considered a potential match for an armed robbery that had recently taken place before the stop. It is a recording of the officer calling the stop in before it happened so it appears that the officer thought he was dealing with the armed robbery suspect.

http://gawker.com/cop-on-apparent-po...ast-1783339741
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[spence]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

I didn't catch the mirrored video..I did hear that he was considered a potential match for an armed robbery that had recently taken place before the stop. It is a recording of the officer calling the stop in before it happened so it appears that the officer thought he was dealing with the armed robbery suspect.

http://gawker.com/cop-on-apparent-po...ast-1783339741
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Because he had a "wide-set nose"...are you effing kidding me?

[Fly Rod]

potus has taken away most if not all of police departments nation wide military equipment....will he take away there semi auto weapons too.....remember the bobbies of the UK never had weapons...then were given hand guns until they were faced with fire power of ak47's from drug cartels and dealers operating in their country and only then bobbies were given semi auto rifles....there is a lesson to B learned from Texas since this was a peaceful demo..... they were caught off guard, sharp shooters should B positioned at high points...there was confusion, did not know where perpetrator was, seconds is a long time.

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by spence

Because he had a "wide-set nose"...are you effing kidding me?

Maybe it was his way of being politically correct when describing the robbery suspect.
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[wdmso]

The issue I see there is a problem with Some police departments Rules of engagement... Lets use my tour in Iraq as an example

Or ROE was you could not engage unless 1 you were being fired on 2 you could id the shooter location . exception was you could engage any military age male if he had a crew served weapon or an RPG .. carrying or having an AK or side arm was not a justification to engage..

police are killing people for perceived threats.. thats just not good law enforcement. ( you pull a gun and police shoot you NP with that)

But it seems many police departments training is lacking in the threat department

Here is another example from the town I live in

A woman i know late 40's white was leaving a work a nursing home after her shift 11pm driving a mini Van , she was pulled over for rolling a stop sign ( all reasonable to combat drinking and driving ) Officer ask for her license registration she reached for her purse that was between the seat .. He immediately yelled at her to keep her hand where he could see them . She explained thats her purse and thats where her wallet was . he again told her keep her hand on the wheel . went back to his cruiser and came back and promptly gave her a ticket for not having her license . and off he went

white woman over 40
nurses uniform ( 4 nursing homes in the area )
mini van
wallet in purse
other than 11pm at night where is the threat ..

this officer needs some training or needs to find a job if he is that afraid to have a women get her ID.. but has the balls to give her a ticket

the training he seems is getting is that everyones a threat ? not sure..

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The issue I see there is a problem with Some police departments Rules of engagement... Lets use my tour in Iraq as an example

Or ROE was you could not engage unless 1 you were being fired on 2 you could id the shooter location . exception was you could engage any military age male if he had a crew served weapon or an RPG .. carrying or having an AK or side arm was not a justification to engage..

police are killing people for perceived threats.. thats just not good law enforcement. ( you pull a gun and police shoot you NP with that)

But it seems many police departments training is lacking in the threat department

Here is another example from the town I live in

A woman i know late 40's white was leaving a work a nursing home after her shift 11pm driving a mini Van , she was pulled over for rolling a stop sign ( all reasonable to combat drinking and driving ) Officer ask for her license registration she reached for her purse that was between the seat .. He immediately yelled at her to keep her hand where he could see them . She explained thats her purse and thats where her wallet was . he again told her keep her hand on the wheel . went back to his cruiser and came back and promptly gave her a ticket for not having her license . and off he went

white woman over 40
nurses uniform ( 4 nursing homes in the area )
mini van
wallet in purse
other than 11pm at night where is the threat ..

this officer needs some training or needs to find a job if he is that afraid to have a women get her ID.. but has the balls to give her a ticket

the training he seems is getting is that everyones a threat ? not sure..

So he gave her a ticket...sounds like BS to me.
Are you saying women can't kill police?
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The issue I see there is a problem with Some police departments Rules of engagement... Lets use my tour in Iraq as an example

Or ROE was you could not engage unless 1 you were being fired on 2 you could id the shooter location . exception was you could engage any military age male if he had a crew served weapon or an RPG .. carrying or having an AK or side arm was not a justification to engage..

police are killing people for perceived threats.. thats just not good law enforcement. ( you pull a gun and police shoot you NP with that)

But it seems many police departments training is lacking in the threat department

Here is another example from the town I live in

A woman i know late 40's white was leaving a work a nursing home after her shift 11pm driving a mini Van , she was pulled over for rolling a stop sign ( all reasonable to combat drinking and driving ) Officer ask for her license registration she reached for her purse that was between the seat .. He immediately yelled at her to keep her hand where he could see them . She explained thats her purse and thats where her wallet was . he again told her keep her hand on the wheel . went back to his cruiser and came back and promptly gave her a ticket for not having her license . and off he went

white woman over 40
nurses uniform ( 4 nursing homes in the area )
mini van
wallet in purse
other than 11pm at night where is the threat ..

this officer needs some training or needs to find a job if he is that afraid to have a women get her ID.. but has the balls to give her a ticket

the training he seems is getting is that everyones a threat ? not sure..

So if it was a black man in the same situation it would have been racist??

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

....and were you actually in the car to corroborate that it actually happened this way. Seems hearsay is becoming the new "Facts"
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

So if it was a black man in the same situation it would have been racist??

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

....and were you actually in the car to corroborate that it actually happened this way. Seems hearsay is becoming the new "Facts"
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Wow you dont believe anything!! why would I need to be in the car to corroborate Her telling of the incident... and this was months before any of the current craziness going on now

I am in Law enforcement there is no dam if you do or dam if you dont .. follow your UOF policy and your all set I doubt shooting some one because you think they have a gun is in the policy as a justified reason for discharging one's weapon

But if you dont think when some officers pull over a black person they may act differently .. your heads buried in the sand

Racism can easily just be stereotyping not sinister no overt intent .. Just inexperience in the job or life in general.. thats how I see the issue

But it seems easier for one side to yell Racism and the other side to say No there isn't than to have a frank conversation

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Racism can easily just be stereotyping not sinister no overt intent .. Just inexperience in the job or life in general.. thats how I see the issue

But it seems easier for one side to yell Racism and the other side to say No there isn't than to have a frank conversation

There in lies the problem......stereotyping is NOT racism.....the term racist/racism gets thrown around way to frequently these days.

Racism is the feeling that someone is inferior to you strictly because of their race.

If you want to have an honest dialog about racism, how about we actually talk about racism. And not label every little politically incorrect thing that someone says or does as racism.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

There in lies the problem......stereotyping is NOT racism.....the term racist/racism gets thrown around way to frequently these days.

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I don't think a lot of the incidents have been as a result of racism but stereotyping.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

There in lies the problem......stereotyping is NOT racism.....the term racist/racism gets thrown around way to frequently these days.

Racism is the feeling that someone is inferior to you strictly because of their race.

If you want to have an honest dialog about racism, how about we actually talk about racism. And not label every little politically incorrect thing that someone says or does as racism.
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Who's doing that pull a gun on a cop no matter your Race and you get killed I have no issues

But police killing people because they think they have a gun no matter the Race .. I have an issue with that

So whats a stereotype if it used and only assigned to 1 Race AKA BLACKS you dont think this is a Form of Racism ?

[ecduzitgood]

Obama: "But regardless of the outcome of such investigations, what’s clear is that these fatal shootings are not isolated incidents. They are symptomatic of the broader challenges within our criminal justice system, the racial disparities that appear across the system year after year, and the resulting lack of trust that exists between law enforcement and too many of the communities they serve".
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[ecduzitgood]

Frank conversation....twice as many whites are killed by cops. Over 40% of officers killed are killed by blacks (12% of the population including both male and female any age) when you take out the minors and elderly that leaves about 6% of the total population responsible for over 40% of the police that are killed.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

Frank conversation....twice as many whites are killed by cops. Over 40% of officers killed are killed by blacks (12% of the population including both male and female any age) when you take out the minors and elderly that leaves about 6% of the total population responsible for over 40% of the police that are killed.
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so your correct in raw numbers and thats about it I would like to see how many whites were unarmed



most of those killed by police are male and white. 123 of those shot were Black Americans. This is a relatively high share, keeping in mind that close to 13 percent of Americans belong to that ethnic group.

238 whites who are 63 percent of Americans

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by wdmso

so your correct in raw numbers and thats about it I would like to see how many whites were unarmed



most of those killed by police are male and white. 123 of those shot were Black Americans. This is a relatively high share, keeping in mind that close to 13 percent of Americans belong to that ethnic group.

238 whites who are 63 percent of Americans

Don't gloss over that fact that over 40% of cops killed in the line of duty are killed by blacks.
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[ecduzitgood]

I see your white privilege and raise you affirmative action.
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[Jim in CT]

There's our lunatic-in-chief, at the memorial service for 5 slaughtered police officers, turning that event into a left-wing political rally for gun control. Obama said that in our cities, it's easier to get a gun than it is to get a book.

He's an idiot who has no appreciation for how inappropriate that setting is for a policy speech, and on top of that, what he said is nonsensical babble. What nut wrote that?