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06-18-2016, 04:03 PM
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This is a situation Jeff,where just one can be too many. The possibility of many would have consequences that may have you taking more karate classes.
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06-18-2016, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
This is a situation Jeff,where just one can be too many.
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By that logic you'd need to close the border to everyone = terrorist win. |
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06-18-2016, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
By that logic you'd need to close the border to everyone = terrorist win.
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Why everyone?
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06-18-2016, 07:05 PM
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Yes, why everyone and why not for a period of time until a better system is
devised to use every method possible to make a safer program?
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06-22-2016, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
By that logic you'd need to close the border to everyone = terrorist win.
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How do the terrorist's win, and why should we let people in that come from countries that support terrorism? |
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06-22-2016, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
How do the terrorist's win, and why should we let people in that come from countries that support terrorism?
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If terrorists influence the US to take an irrational position that the majority believes compromises our values = terrorists win. |
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06-22-2016, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
If terrorists influence the US to take an irrational position that the majority believes compromises our values = terrorists win.
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So, is that more of a "win" than committing more mass murders on our soil?
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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06-22-2016, 03:09 PM
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So, is that more of a "win" than committing more mass murders on our soil?
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So far I'm only aware of a single Muslim immigrant who's been involved in a mass shooting on US soil. The experts seem to agree the bigger threat is self radicalization of people already here many who are citizens and can walk into gun stores and legally buy assault weapons.
Taking irrational action at the border to discriminate against Islam is not only going to be ineffective it's going drive self radicalization.
Newsflash, the worst mass shooting in US history appears to be a lover scorned.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...-mateen-224644 |
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06-22-2016, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
So far I'm only aware of a single Muslim immigrant who's been involved in a mass shooting on US soil. The experts seem to agree the bigger threat is self radicalization of people already here many who are citizens and can walk into gun stores and legally buy assault weapons.
Taking irrational action at the border to discriminate against Islam is not only going to be ineffective it's going drive self radicalization.
Newsflash, the worst mass shooting in US history appears to be a lover scorned.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...-mateen-224644 |
But we do have other countries that are having more attacks and that should be a lesson to us . What exactly is wrong with slowing the process down? When our parents immigrated here they needed sponsors and jobs . It was very strict . What was wrong with that system ? What purpose does it serve to have unlimited immigration? Do you not see the financial and social burden it creates ?
Oh scorned lover.. Lmao . Is that the new "work place violence "?
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06-23-2016, 07:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
So far I'm only aware of a single Muslim immigrant who's been involved in a mass shooting on US soil. The experts seem to agree the bigger threat is self radicalization of people already here many who are citizens and can walk into gun stores and legally buy assault weapons.
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You don't pay attention, do you? I didn't mention shootings, yet you based your response on that. This thread is about immigration, not buying guns. Please try to come up with a response that fits the topic of the thread. You must have conveniently forgot about the marathon bombings and 9/11.
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06-28-2016, 10:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
So far I'm only aware of a single Muslim immigrant who's been involved in a mass shooting on US soil. The experts seem to agree the bigger threat is self radicalization of people already here many who are citizens and can walk into gun stores and legally buy assault weapons.
Taking irrational action at the border to discriminate against Islam is not only going to be ineffective it's going drive self radicalization.
Newsflash, the worst mass shooting in US history appears to be a lover scorned.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...-mateen-224644 |
"So far I'm only aware of a single Muslim immigrant who's been involved in a mass shooting on US soil"
Spence, I'll do you one better...I'm not aware of a Muslim immigrant who has gotten a parking ticket. But I don't know why that matters. So we should wait until it happens, and THEN devise a policy to prevent it?
My point was this...it's much easier for the FBI to investigate an American citizen, than it is for anyone, in any agency, to investigate someone from a mountaintop village which has no electricity or computers. So forgive me if I'm not relieved when Obama says "don't worry, we are vetting these people". |
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06-23-2016, 05:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishbones
So, is that more of a "win" than committing more mass murders on our soil?
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Circle back around and think about why the mass murders happened in the first place. |
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06-23-2016, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Circle back around and think about why the mass murders happened in the first place.
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Stop it. You're making yourself look even more foolish.
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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06-22-2016, 08:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
If terrorists influence the US to take an irrational position that the majority believes compromises our values = terrorists win.
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It would be an irrational decision to allow immigrants from countries that support terrorism the priviledge (sp ?) to enter our country. |
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06-23-2016, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
It would be an irrational decision to allow immigrants from countries that support terrorism the priviledge (sp ?) to enter our country.
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Why? |
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06-23-2016, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Why?
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Common sense. Shouldn't have to spell out the dangers of countries who
support the terrorism that wants to do us in. |
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06-23-2016, 03:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
If terrorists influence the US to take an irrational position that the majority believes compromises our values = terrorists win.
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"If terrorists influence the US to take an irrational position that the majority believes compromises our values"= utter nonsense 
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06-22-2016, 01:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
By that logic you'd need to close the border to everyone = terrorist win.
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Not closing the border spence....even if a wall was built they just have to go through processing at the legal entrance....U should B complaining to Canada not letting Americans into their country with a past DUI....  |
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06-22-2016, 02:08 PM
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IMO any refugee entering this country should be required sign a legal document during the vetting process giving up their rights to privacy until they become a U.S. citizen.
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06-22-2016, 02:48 PM
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Not closing the border spence....even if a wall was built they just have to go through processing at the legal entrance....U should B complaining to Canada not letting Americans into their country with a past DUI.... |
US does the same thing, we're just a little less strict. |
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