Obama goes to Hiroshima, and naturally, screws it up

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

WDMSO, are you under the impression that we decided on our own, to pick on Japan in 1942?

I have no issues in what was done to japan to include the bomb or germany during war its about winning and i wasn't fighting that war those who were did what they felt best for the country.. i just am not blinded by patriotism or nationalism that 71 years later things should be viewed through the same 1942 lens ... its not revisionist history people had reservations then

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistle...b&pagenumber=1

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I have no issues in what was done to japan to include the bomb or germany during war its about winning and i wasn't fighting that war those who were did what they felt best for the country.. i just am not blinded by patriotism or nationalism that 71 years later things should be viewed through the same 1942 lens ... its not revisionist history people had reservations then

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistle...b&pagenumber=1

Yes, we had reservations.

But it wasn't an evil act, and for Obama to say it was...he's a village idiot, we elected the village idiot.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Yes, we had reservations.

But it wasn't an evil act, and for Obama to say it was...he's a village idiot, we elected the village idiot.

Jim, he never said that.

You need help.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim, he never said that.

You need help.

"We shall not repeat the evil".

what was he referring to?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"We shall not repeat the evil".

what was he referring to?

another Clinton Presidency...just a guess

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by scottw

another Clinton Presidency...just a guess

Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

[scottw]

that hitler poster is pretty offensive...I can't believe we stooped to that

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"We shall not repeat the evil".

what was he referring to?

a world War comes to mind

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

a world War comes to mind

His whole speech was about nukes, and that death fell from above, and about the people who died at Hiroshima. Sorry if the text of his speech proves my point...

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

His whole speech was about nukes, and that death fell from above, and about the people who died at Hiroshima. Sorry if the text of his speech proves my point...

it was at hiroshima why wouldn't it be about nukes?? and a world war guess you didnt take the time to read the speech

The world war that reached its brutal end in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was fought among the wealthiest and most powerful of nations. Their civilizations had given the world great cities and magnificent art. Their thinkers had advanced ideas of justice and harmony and truth. And yet the war grew out of the same base instinct for domination or conquest that had caused conflicts among the simplest tribes, an old pattern amplified by new capabilities and without new constraints.
In the span of a few years, some 60 million people would die. Men, women, children, no different than us. Shot, beaten, marched, bombed, jailed, starved, gassed to death. There are many sites around the world that chronicle this war, memorials that tell stories of courage and heroism, graves and empty camps that echo of unspeakable depravity.


Still, every act of aggression between nations, every act of terror and corruption and cruelty and oppression that we see around the world shows our work is never done. We may not be able to eliminate man’s capacity to do evil, so nations and the alliances that we form must possess the means to defend ourselves. But among those nations like my own that hold nuclear stockpiles, we must have the courage to escape the logic of fear and pursue a world without them.
^^^^^^this is the only mention of evil in his whole speech


heres a link to the whole speech http://time.com/4350339/barack-obama...ech-full-text/

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"We shall not repeat the evil".

what was he referring to?

He never said that Jim.

"Let all the souls here rest in peace, for we shall not repeat the evil" is an English translation of an epitaph on the Hiroshima memorial.

You've once again been duped by fake right wing "news."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

He never said that Jim.

"Let all the souls here rest in peace, for we shall not repeat the evil" is an English translation of an epitaph on the Hiroshima memorial.

You've once again been duped by fake right wing "news."

First you denied that he said "evil". Now, you're saying...I don't know what... but you are claiming that by "evil", Obama wasn't referring to our dropping the bomb. His whole speech was about nukes, and the people who died at Hiroshima, and the death fell from above, duh duh duh.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

First you denied that he said "evil". Now, you're saying...I don't know what... but you are claiming that by "evil", Obama wasn't referring to our dropping the bomb. His whole speech was about nukes, and the people who died at Hiroshima, and the death fell from above, duh duh duh.

First you didn't understand what Obama said, then you didn't understand what I said, now you don't even appear to understand what you're trying to say...